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Offline Acmemopars

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Question about tranny kickdown rod for 57 dual quad.
« on: February 12, 2018, 12:24:59 PM »
When I acquired my car (1957 Eldorado Seville - 365 Dual Quad), there were a few pieces missing and I had to acquire. 

The kickdown rod was one of the items and I found an original rod on Ebay in good condition.

My questions are:

1.) Did GM make different kickdown rods for single & dual carburetor applications (OR) did they use the same rod ?

2.) Does anyone have a photo of how (where) it connects to the carbs ?

3.) Is this setup a single rod from the carbs to the tranny or is it a multiple rod application ?

4.) The rod I purchased is in the photo below:

Thank YOu
Mike Nelson
Denison, Tx
Mike Nelson
Denison, Tx
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70 Sunroof Charger 1 of 1
56 F100

Offline Dave Shepherd

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Re: Question about tranny kickdown rod for 57 dual quad.
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2018, 04:16:02 PM »
Heres  one pic off Google.  :https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=YxGCWuXhO8nmjwOD7Ye4DA&q=57+eldorado+carb+linkage&oq=57+eldorado+carb+linkage&gs_l=mobile-gws-hp.12...3767.17643.0.19029.26.25.0.4.4.0.1289.4906.0j18j4j7-1.23.0....0...1.1j4.64.mobile-gws-hp..2.22.4305.3..0j35i39k1j0i131k1j0i131i20i264k1j0i20i264k1j0i22i30k1j33i22i29i30k1j33i160k1j33i21k1.192.NU4-rh1r0aw#imgrc=zr12h8tYtXHHEM:

Offline Dave Shepherd

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Re: Question about tranny kickdown rod for 57 dual quad.
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2018, 04:17:47 PM »
Links no good.  Google 57 eldorado carb linkage, one pic has a good view of how that rod connects at the carb linkage.

Offline savemy67

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Re: Question about tranny kickdown rod for 57 dual quad.
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2018, 07:19:40 PM »
Hello Michael,

According to the '57 (and preceding years) shop manual, the transmission throttle valve rod on the '57 is a one-piece rod extending from the carb linkage to the throttle valve lever on the side of the transmission.  Adjustments are the same whether the car is a single carb or dual carb set-up.  The adjustment procedure and diagrams can be found here:

http://cadillac.oldcarmanualproject.com/manuals/1957/1957%20Shop%20Manual/06-Hydra-Matic/image48.html

You may need to use the "next image/previous image" links on the page to get to the beginning of the adjustment procedure on the preceding page.

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Offline Roger Zimmermann

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Re: Question about tranny kickdown rod for 57 dual quad.
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2018, 01:36:18 AM »
The rod is not the same for cars with a single carb or dual carb.
The attached picture is for a '57 Brougham, I suppose the regular models with dual carb set-up is identical.
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Offline Acmemopars

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Re: Question about tranny kickdown rod for 57 dual quad.
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2018, 12:09:41 PM »
Thanks for all the great feedback.

From what I read:

It appears that I purchased the wrong rod
The TV rod for single carb is not the same for a dual carb setup

I've setup / adjusted a few kick down rods on different trannys (ford / GM, Mopar) so I understand the general idea but did not know I had the wrong TV rod.

Just looked and found several TV / kick down rods listed on eBay but none of them specify if they are for a single or dual carb application.  I sent messages to inquire....

Thanks for the feedback.
« Last Edit: February 13, 2018, 04:26:41 PM by Acmemopars »
Mike Nelson
Denison, Tx
CLC# 31194

57 Eldo Survivor
70 Sunroof Charger 1 of 1
56 F100

Offline savemy67

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Re: Question about tranny kickdown rod for 57 dual quad.
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2018, 09:22:48 PM »
Hello Michael,

I apparently mis-understood your first question.  While there are two different rods, the adjustment procedure is the same.

Christopher Winter
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Offline Acmemopars

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Re: Question about tranny kickdown rod for 57 dual quad.
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2018, 06:30:46 PM »
Thank You

When installing, does the rod go in from the top side or up through the bottom ?  (I tried both)


Thanks
Mike Nelson
Denison, Tx
CLC# 31194

57 Eldo Survivor
70 Sunroof Charger 1 of 1
56 F100

 

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