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Offline amolnayak

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1940 Window winders Lasalle 5227C
« on: November 02, 2017, 06:11:10 AM »
Hi Guys as the restoration on my car moves on I have been going through authenticity manuals and found that the Internal door opening handles and so also the window winders should have ivory coloured plastic inserted steel Eustecheons. Is that true? The ones that came out of my car don't show any signs of having any plastic inserts at any point of time. They also seem to be very much original to the car.

Is there some source who can make the plastic knob inserts at the end of the winders. Mine are in very bad shape. I am sending this batch out for chroming. I also need a couple of cir-clips which retains the handles if there's a source where these are available.

Thanks in advance.
1940 Lasalle 5227C
1956 Mercedes Benz 180D
1956 Fiat 1100 103E
1961 Rover P5 (now sold)
1992 Eunos Roadster V series special

Offline Steve Passmore

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Re: 1940 Window winders Lasalle 5227C
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2017, 09:29:15 AM »
I think the plastic may have corroded off from that grove on your Eustecheons.

The clips are available.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/122022258993

Steve

Offline amolnayak

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Re: 1940 Window winders Lasalle 5227C
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2017, 09:41:27 PM »
Thanks Steve
1940 Lasalle 5227C
1956 Mercedes Benz 180D
1956 Fiat 1100 103E
1961 Rover P5 (now sold)
1992 Eunos Roadster V series special

Offline z3skybolt

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Re: 1940 Window winders Lasalle 5227C
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2017, 11:39:07 AM »
I also have a 1940 5227C.  This is how my handles look.  The car was restored 20 years ago and so I cannot vouch for authenticity.

Bob
« Last Edit: November 03, 2017, 11:55:19 AM by z3skybolt »
1937 Buick Special Coupe( owned for 46 yrs.))
1940 LaSalle 5227 Coupe(bought in May 2016)
1974 VW Beetle bought ( in 2000)
1985 Lincoln Town Car Signature Series( bought new)
2000 BMW Z-3(bought new)
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Offline Steve Passmore

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Re: 1940 Window winders Lasalle 5227C
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2017, 11:48:58 AM »
They don't look like the correct handles Bob.
Steve

Offline z3skybolt

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Re: 1940 Window winders Lasalle 5227C
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2017, 11:56:55 AM »
Not surprised.  I knew you would know Steve. Good thing this is not a serious show car.  But sure is lovely and fulfills my desire.

Bob
1937 Buick Special Coupe( owned for 46 yrs.))
1940 LaSalle 5227 Coupe(bought in May 2016)
1974 VW Beetle bought ( in 2000)
1985 Lincoln Town Car Signature Series( bought new)
2000 BMW Z-3(bought new)
Newer cars that don't matter.

Offline amolnayak

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Re: 1940 Window winders Lasalle 5227C
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2017, 05:43:56 AM »
Has any one tried using these Chevy Eustecheons on their 1940 cadillacs. Do they work?

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/INSIDE-HANDLE-ESCUTCHEON-1930-S-1940S-OLDSMOBILES/380378922126?hash=item589059bc8e:m:mhWGORHIQrjxm2MNrTK06Lg&vxp=mtr

They seem to be available in plenty on ebay and quite reasonably priced too!
1940 Lasalle 5227C
1956 Mercedes Benz 180D
1956 Fiat 1100 103E
1961 Rover P5 (now sold)
1992 Eunos Roadster V series special

Offline Steve Passmore

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Re: 1940 Window winders Lasalle 5227C
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2017, 06:34:07 AM »
There are many different escutcheons that would work, any Gm in fact but it would depend on how authentic one wanted it to look?
Steve

Offline Fred Pennington 25635

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Re: 1940 Window winders Lasalle 5227C
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2017, 05:48:07 PM »
I have them and they do work but choose not to use them,
To the average person they are ok but to someone who knows the difference they look cheap.
They also tend to be on every car someone can't find or is unwilling to find a correct replacement.
Take a look at Bobs Automobila. He has Buick parts that may look better.

I had a friend 3D print inserts for mine. The Shape is perfect but the color is a off, we are working on it.
Fred Pennington, CLC 25635
1940, LaSalle 5019 x2

Offline amolnayak

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Re: 1940 Window winders Lasalle 5227C
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2017, 11:48:30 PM »
I have them and they do work but choose not to use them,
To the average person they are ok but to someone who knows the difference they look cheap.
They also tend to be on every car someone can't find or is unwilling to find a correct replacement.
Take a look at Bobs Automobila. He has Buick parts that may look better.

I had a friend 3D print inserts for mine. The Shape is perfect but the color is a off, we are working on it.

Hi Fred that sounds like a good idea. 3D printing never struck me as a possibility. Could you put up a final image of the finished Eustecheon after it was 3D printed and assembled. Colour I'll work on here.
1940 Lasalle 5227C
1956 Mercedes Benz 180D
1956 Fiat 1100 103E
1961 Rover P5 (now sold)
1992 Eunos Roadster V series special

Offline Steve Passmore

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Re: 1940 Window winders Lasalle 5227C
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2017, 05:31:26 AM »
I think your handles are the same as Cadillac through 41 Amol. These are ones I removed from a 41 sedan and they are the same in my 41 fastback.
Steve

Offline Alan Harris CLC#1513

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Re: 1940 Window winders Lasalle 5227C
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2017, 10:15:36 PM »
They are the same on my 1940 5219. I have been wondering for years what to do about them.

Offline amolnayak

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Re: 1940 Window winders Lasalle 5227C
« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2017, 12:52:34 AM »
I think your handles are the same as Cadillac through 41 Amol. These are ones I removed from a 41 sedan and they are the same in my 41 fastback.

Superb this really helps, It appears that out of all the GM eustecheons I have seen so far this may the simplest.
1940 Lasalle 5227C
1956 Mercedes Benz 180D
1956 Fiat 1100 103E
1961 Rover P5 (now sold)
1992 Eunos Roadster V series special

Offline Steve Passmore

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Re: 1940 Window winders Lasalle 5227C
« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2017, 02:53:31 AM »
I think it may be just the sedans using these ivory inserts Amol as both my coupe and convertible coupe has solid chrome ones, but that gives you better scope in finding good replacements.
Steve

Offline Alan Harris CLC#1513

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Re: 1940 Window winders Lasalle 5227C
« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2017, 05:30:44 PM »
Considering the number of 1941 Cadillacs, one would think that they would have been reproduced by now.

I would certainly be a customer.

Offline Bill Bickle 15098

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Re: 1940 Window winders Lasalle 5227C
« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2017, 10:18:48 AM »
I believe that Dan  Whalen still reproduces these items. You have to send him your handles   I inserted his escutcheon plastic pieces myself.  My door handles (5267) were clear plastic inserts.  I don't see why they couldn't be made in ivory.  He is in Ohio.  His phone number is 513-734-4040.  He does not have an email as far as I know.
1927 (7400) and 1940 (5267) LaSalles; 1949 Cadillac 6107

Offline Alan Harris CLC#1513

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Re: 1940 Window winders Lasalle 5227C
« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2017, 09:43:23 PM »
Thank you very much, Bill.
I will contact Mr. Whalen and keep you posted.

Offline amolnayak

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Re: 1940 Window winders Lasalle 5227C
« Reply #17 on: Today at 12:32:34 AM »
Thank you Bill! Allan if you get in touch with him can you also PM me the details. I'll get my handles and surrounds chromed and send it to him by courier from India. Thanks
1940 Lasalle 5227C
1956 Mercedes Benz 180D
1956 Fiat 1100 103E
1961 Rover P5 (now sold)
1992 Eunos Roadster V series special

Offline Steve Passmore

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Re: 1940 Window winders Lasalle 5227C
« Reply #18 on: Today at 02:12:07 AM »
I would have thought as they are the same in different years and models it should be possible to get a good usable set without the expense of re-chroming etc?  Many 41 sedans have been dismantled.
Steve