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WTB 1937 Cadillac LaSalle transmission stick

Started by hemiroid, May 22, 2016, 11:01:23 PM

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hemiroid

Had some parts walk away and I need to find some replacements.

My 1937 top shift transmission is missing the shift stick, spring and both cups.  I found one bolt.

I do know of a guy in Cali that is making some short [12 inch] replacements.  I have one on the way so I have something.  I'd like to find a full length original. 

Thanks for any help...

message here or greg 1960 at Comcast dot net

Steve Passmore

If he's making short ones just add a section in the middle to bring the length up. Done it a couple of times myself.  I doubt you will find an original personally, the transmissions one year only and fetch too much money for anyone to be parting them out.
Steve

Present
1937 60 convertible coupe
1941 62 convertible coupe
1941 62 coupe

Previous
1936 70 Sport coupe
1937 85 series V12 sedan
1938 60 coupe
1938 50 coupe
1939 60S
1940 62 coupe
1941 62 convertible coupe x2
1941 61 coupe
1941 61 sedan x2
1941 62 sedan x2
1947 62 sedan
1959 62 coupe

hemiroid

Thanks for looking Steve!

You'd be disappointed in me if I didn't exhaust any and all resources!

Would you care to share a pic or a tech article on what you did with yours?

The idea behind the re-pop is he sells the business end and you weld-er-up to finish the stick.  I can't imagine a butt weld taking much of a beating.  It would be scary/hairy having the weld fail and the shifter snap off in your hand.

My thought was to thread each end in a collar and pin them.  Maybe I am over thinking it???


Jim Stamper

Splicing the pieces together by cutting both pieces off at very acute angles so the mate for an inch and a half provides much more surface area for welding.  In theory they could be riveted together with a couple pieces of wire for the rivets and then braze the joint with good brass penetration, file and sand it smooth and paint it. It will be very tough to break or even detect if finished cleanly.

     I have seen sticks on Ebay but they must come out of very tired transmissions.

              Jim Stamper CLC#13470

The Tassie Devil(le)

#4
The best way to weld on end is to taper each end to a 45 degree point, then continue welding till the there is an area to grind off smooth.

Never had a weld like this break.   The secret is to weld one side, chip off the slag, weld the other side, and continue the build-up.

I have welded up shafts from 3/16" up to 1 1/2 ", and never had a failure.

My last repair was a broken meat slicer shield retaining bolt that had to have the thread replaced with the end of a bolt.   Saved a $400.00 plus machine from being trashed.

Bruce. >:D
'72 Eldorado Convertible (LHD)
'70 Ranchero Squire (RHD)
'74 Chris Craft Gull Wing (SH)
'02 VX Series II Holden Commodore SS Sedan
(Past President Modified Chapter)

Past Cars of significance - to me
1935 Ford 3 Window Coupe
1936 Ford 5 Window Coupe
1937 Chevrolet Sports Coupe
1955 Chevrolet Convertible
1959 Ford Fairlane Ranch Wagon
1960 Cadillac CDV
1972 Cadillac Eldorado Coupe

J. Bice CLC #24805

The "Genie Shifter" set up supposedly used a 37 Lasalle for it's stick pattern, of course very different at the bottom end, but you might be able to use the stick with some modifications...
J. Bice CLC #24805
1937 Lasalle 5019

Steve Passmore

Quote from: hemiroid on May 23, 2016, 03:21:14 PM


Would you care to share a pic or a tech article on what you did with yours?

The idea behind the re-pop is he sells the business end and you weld-er-up to finish the stick.  I can't imagine a butt weld taking much of a beating.  It would be scary/hairy having the weld fail and the shifter snap off in your hand.

My thought was to thread each end in a collar and pin them.  Maybe I am over thinking it???

Yes, that's a little over-thinking Greg. My solution was exactly as Bruce said. I ground each end almost into a point and built the whole thing up with weld, then ground it back flush.  If you worry about that not holding then you have something drastic going on in your transmission as these box's shift very easily and never need massive pressure.
The one I did was on a 37 Buick where someone in the distant past had shortened it. I added a 12" length.   That was two years ago and its still holding.
Sorry about the bad picture but this is the stick painted ready to be fitted.
Steve

Present
1937 60 convertible coupe
1941 62 convertible coupe
1941 62 coupe

Previous
1936 70 Sport coupe
1937 85 series V12 sedan
1938 60 coupe
1938 50 coupe
1939 60S
1940 62 coupe
1941 62 convertible coupe x2
1941 61 coupe
1941 61 sedan x2
1941 62 sedan x2
1947 62 sedan
1959 62 coupe

hemiroid

#7
Thanks all...

Steve, that looks good. 

My local welding specialist says the same as you guys.  He tells me to think smaller! 

I do have a spare 30's Ford shift tower that might give it's life to save a Cad/LaSalle.  I do have the summer to exhaust my search in case one shows up.


hemiroid

Sweet J. Bice.  Thanks for the info!!!

I did pick up the stick pictured below.  It was modified for a Model A hot rod Sedan and used in the 50s.  It would be a shame to have to bend it back and ruin the chrome.


Bob Hoffmann CLC#96

Bend it back & rechrome it. How much could that possibly cost???
Bob
1968 Eldorado slick top ,white/red interior
2015 Holden Ute HSV Maloo red/black interior.
             
Too much fun is more than you can have.


Jay Friedman

There are 2 on ebay today.  Search on "Lasalle Transmission".
1949 Cadillac 6107 Club Coupe
1932 Ford V8 Phaeton (restored, not a rod).  Sold
Decatur, Georgia
CLC # 3210, since 1984
"If it won't work, get a bigger hammer."