Author Topic: Restoring a 1956 Cadillac Series 62 Coupe in Germany  (Read 2972 times)

Offline moto1969

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  • Name: jemedina
Re: Restoring a 1956 Cadillac Series 62 Coupe in Germany
« Reply #20 on: July 20, 2016, 09:58:40 AM »
Thanks for sharing your restoration project.  Just got a 55 Cadillac series 62 that my son and I will begin restoration on.  Two bottles of Crown Royal "Rye" whiskey paid for this ride. Passenger and driver side floor boards rusted through and some roof damage to be repaired.  Condition of engine unkown, added teaspoon of diesel fuel and 30 wt motor oil to each cylinder before cranking over motor, car has been sitting for 15-20 years.
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Offline harascho

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  • Name: Harald Schoener
Re: Restoring a 1956 Cadillac Series 62 Coupe in Germany
« Reply #21 on: August 15, 2016, 12:36:28 PM »
Ok and the story goes on... those front fenders are a real task, the inner wheel wells and headlamp cover panels.. everything is seriously rusted. I needed a lot of imagination to sort out the basic shape of some parts.... but " One piece at a time .." will bring me to the finish line..;-)

Harald

Offline goofyhb

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Re: Restoring a 1956 Cadillac Series 62 Coupe in Germany
« Reply #22 on: August 17, 2016, 06:45:02 AM »
Hello Harald,
great progress! "One piece at a time..." great song and just the way I am taking it too. In the 55 this area looks a bit different. Did you have any remains of rubber attached to your parts? This was used to seal against the fender.
Attached pics my parts. They were just repaired. Not as nice as you do it.
Regards
Axel
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Offline harascho

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Re: Restoring a 1956 Cadillac Series 62 Coupe in Germany
« Reply #23 on: August 18, 2016, 11:50:16 PM »
and the title weights 60 lbs..;-)

Does anybody have some pics of the area front inner wheel wells to front bumper? I need to see the clearance of the fog lights in the bumper to the inner structures of the fenders. I rebuilt those parts and I do not know if the round shape in the middle of that panel is for strength or if there is a clearance issue to the lamps in the bumper.

Thanks

harald

Offline harascho

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Re: Restoring a 1956 Cadillac Series 62 Coupe in Germany
« Reply #24 on: September 13, 2016, 07:00:55 AM »
Some engine and tranny trouble:

 When I took the tranny apart I realised that the internals of the shift valve body are not according the manual. I am missing the neutral clutch valve and spring, those weren't installed in the shift valve body. Does anybody have an idea?
Also the engine showed one bent pushrod. I will investigate further today. I guess the minimum are new lifters and that pushrod and a new timing chain. I am curious how the camshaft looks... I'll post engine pics later..  here is the tranny stuff....

cheers

Harald

Offline harascho

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Re: Restoring a 1956 Cadillac Series 62 Coupe in Germany
« Reply #25 on: September 13, 2016, 12:31:41 PM »
Now lets address the engine. I found a bent pushrod. My guess is the lifter wasn't compressing due to oil contamination. When I removed the lifters they were hard to pull out, the lower circumference had a kind of corrosion ?  Were should I buy new lifters / pushrods? I hope to remove the cam tomorrow...
The pushrod details: length 9,77" thickness 0,28" The lifter length 2", thickness 0,84"

Offline harascho

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Re: Restoring a 1956 Cadillac Series 62 Coupe in Germany
« Reply #26 on: September 27, 2016, 01:03:09 PM »
While waiting for engine parts I started on the trunk floor
 or should I say floors...'caused by the several layers of sheetmetal patchwork..

Harald

Offline DeVille68

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Re: Restoring a 1956 Cadillac Series 62 Coupe in Germany
« Reply #27 on: September 27, 2016, 02:02:39 PM »
good work!

Wow, I would dream to be able to work in a shop like this!

I need to bring my tools by bicycle every time and don't have a lift or any help.... :-)
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Offline The Tassie Devil(le)

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Re: Restoring a 1956 Cadillac Series 62 Coupe in Germany
« Reply #28 on: September 27, 2016, 07:31:06 PM »
...... When I removed the lifters they were hard to pull out, the lower circumference had a kind of corrosion ?  Were should I buy new lifters / pushrods? I hope to remove the cam tomorrow... 
I have always found that when trying to remove lifters from an old engine (read as high-mileage) there is always a ring of sludge/varnish around the bottom of the lifter, which stops it being pulled out past the normal movement range whilst it is working.

The big thing to check with the lifter is the condition of the bottom face, which runs on the Cam Lobe.   If it is flat, or in any way convex, then it definitely requires replacement, unless you have kept each one in alignment with its' opposing cam lobe.

Mix them around, and the cam won't last, but as you are replacing both the Cam and Lifters, that is not a problem.

Bent Push Rods is caused by sticking valves, or something wrong with the top end.   

Bruce. >:D
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Offline harascho

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  • Name: Harald Schoener
Re: Restoring a 1956 Cadillac Series 62 Coupe in Germany
« Reply #29 on: December 21, 2017, 07:57:11 AM »
Hi folks I need some help regarding the 4 rearmost body to frame mounts.

As I have the frame ready and the  body in primer by now I need to get an idea how those rearmost 4 bodymounts look like. Two are in the rear crossmember into or through that bent U-channel on the body. Question is are those bolts going trough the U channel and into the trunk ( = visible in the trunk) or hust trough the U channel and between the channel and the trunk floor is the bolt ??

Also interesting are the next two bodymounts in the trunk going into the curved outer frame rails. How do the nuts look like? There's a window in the frame rail to get access but I have no idea how those nuts & bolts look ' cause access with any kind of tool is almost impossible..

cheers

Harald


Offline Roger Zimmermann

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Re: Restoring a 1956 Cadillac Series 62 Coupe in Germany
« Reply #30 on: January 01, 2018, 04:12:56 AM »

 When I took the tranny apart I realised that the internals of the shift valve body are not according the manual. I am missing the neutral clutch valve and spring, those weren't installed in the shift valve body. Does anybody have an idea?
Harald
Sorry if I'm late to answer: I practically never look at the restoration threads. Did you find a solution to your "problem" which, in fact, is nothing? According to the Serviceman bulletin from December 1955, those 2 pieces were not necessary and therefore not installed. Shop manuals are usually a good source, but changes are not included.
Another modification, done on most all '56 and '57 transmissions: on page 12-70 from the shop manual, fig. 12-85, the front sprag inner race has tangs on one face. They engage with the front unit coupling, page 12-78, fig. 12-103; unfortunately, those tangs broke easily; they were replaced with splines. Il you still have the tangs, I have a NOS front sprag inner race. However, most probably, your transmission had the splined version.
On all transmissions I overhauled, I saw just one '56 on which the tangs broke, creating a major failure.
I still have a '56 and a '57 car; I overhauled myself the '56 transmission but I have no idea which version I have; it was my first overhaul and was not aware of all possible failures/changes...
Years ago, I sold 2 '56 front fender to a man from Germany; I suppose it was not you.
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