Author Topic: Does anyone actually know if the 79 Eldo came with a cloth headliner?  (Read 161 times)

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I have a 16k mile all original 79 triple yepplow Biarritz with a sunroof. The headliner was replaced but the sail panels are cloth and not foam covered cloth as are the visors and the sunshade. I'm guessing the headliner was cloth covered as well? I'd like to put it back to original. Does anyone actually know? It looks to possibly have been the same material as the 75-79 Seville headliner material just glued to foam. I'd rather it be factory correct than take a wild guess. I would think since the other mentioned parts are cloth I'm guessing so would be the headliner. Please advise.

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Re: Does anyone actually know if the 79 Eldo came with a cloth headliner?
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2018, 07:33:47 AM »
My '81 Seville is cloth so I think you can safely say that the Eldorado is cloth all over. (It has a sunroof also). My '91 "A" pillars are cloth in that Seville as well and I think it was the most expensive car in the lineup. Where are the pictures of this find??? (I've never gone on the "picture reminder" bandwagon and suddenly, it seemed the right thing to do.)  I had to choose between a triple yellow '81 Eldo and my car when I was buying it. I almost bought both of them.
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Re: Does anyone actually know if the 79 Eldo came with a cloth headliner?
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2018, 07:38:29 AM »
Everything was foam-backed except for the visors.  The sail panels have (had?) a sponge like material attached to them, whereas the headliner/shade are the usual type with foam bonded to the cloth.
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Re: Does anyone actually know if the 79 Eldo came with a cloth headliner?
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2018, 07:39:42 AM »
All original?  Headliner has been replaced?  Scratching my head here to make the connection between the two    :o
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Re: Does anyone actually know if the 79 Eldo came with a cloth headliner?
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2018, 07:57:25 AM »
My '91 "A" pillars are cloth in that Seville as well and I think it was the most expensive car in the lineup.

If you're talking base model cars and base prices, the Fleetwood and Allante were more expensive than Seville for '91.  The "entry" models were DeVille and Brougham and Allante was the most expensive.

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Re: Does anyone actually know if the 79 Eldo came with a cloth headliner?
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2018, 08:04:23 AM »
All original in 2018
Original color code respray = original paint
Year correct engine = Original numbers matching engine
NOS replacement chrome & trim = untouched original
Period correct tires, battery = still sitting on factory rubber
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Rear seat never sat on = rear seat never sat on

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Re: Does anyone actually know if the 79 Eldo came with a cloth headliner?
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2018, 08:25:19 AM »
I have a 16k mile all original 79 triple yepplow Biarritz with a sunroof. The headliner was replaced but the sail panels are cloth and not foam covered cloth as are the visors and the sunshade. I'm guessing the headliner was cloth covered as well? I'd like to put it back to original. Does anyone actually know? It looks to possibly have been the same material as the 75-79 Seville headliner material just glued to foam. I'd rather it be factory correct than take a wild guess. I would think since the other mentioned parts are cloth I'm guessing so would be the headliner. Please advise.

If memory serves, headliner of 1st Gen Sevilles had cross stitching which divided the headliner into rectangular sections.  Eldorado headliner did not have this feature and yes, it was originally finished in the same material as the sail panels. 

Not a difficult job for most automotive upholstery shops, however the odds are unlikely the new headliner material will not match the original material in the sail panels and sun visors so you may want to consider having all of them redone if you want them to match one another.
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Re: Does anyone actually know if the 79 Eldo came with a cloth headliner?
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2018, 10:36:06 AM »
I KNEW that if I mentioned price, I'd be wrong. Just can't get ahead of you guys that stay up nights perusing all this stuff in fine print on your manuals and sales brochures. (I honestly had forgotten the Allante.)
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Re: Does anyone actually know if the 79 Eldo came with a cloth headliner?
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2018, 10:45:04 AM »
All original?  Headliner has been replaced?  Scratching my head here to make the connection between the two    :o

Obviously he  meant he wanted to replace with the original material as it came off the assembly line.

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Re: Does anyone actually know if the 79 Eldo came with a cloth headliner?
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2018, 11:52:20 AM »
This is not a small job as the sunroof assembly needs to be dropped to get to the sunshade. The old school bow headliners were last used on a new bodied Cadillac in 1977 on the full size cars.
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Re: Does anyone actually know if the 79 Eldo came with a cloth headliner?
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2018, 12:19:09 PM »
The old school bow headliners were last used on a new bodied Cadillac in 1977 on the full size cars.

How is a 1977 DeVille/Brougham headliner different than that used in 1978?

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Re: Does anyone actually know if the 79 Eldo came with a cloth headliner?
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2018, 12:25:14 PM »
They still used the bow headliner on the sedan models.
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Re: Does anyone actually know if the 79 Eldo came with a cloth headliner?
« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2018, 12:51:24 PM »
They still used the bow headliner on the sedan models.

Not correct. All 1977 DeVille/Brougham had the new style one-piece headliner.
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Re: Does anyone actually know if the 79 Eldo came with a cloth headliner?
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2018, 03:08:23 PM »
I KNEW that if I mentioned price, I'd be wrong. Just can't get ahead of you guys that stay up nights perusing all this stuff in fine print on your manuals and sales brochures. (I honestly had forgotten the Allante.)

I knew it wasn't most expensive given the Allante but had to look up prices myself to see where it otherwise fell in line at that point.  At the beginning of that Seville generation's run in 1986, it was the most expensive (highest base price) model not counting limousines.

Even though Seville wasn't the most expensive Cadillac for '91, it was still a pricey car by today's standards with an inflation adjusted base price for the base Seville of over $62K.