Author Topic: Beware of Mexican MOOG Lower Control Arm Bushings for 61- 69 Cadillac  (Read 249 times)

Offline P. Manoogian

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Generally speaking I go out of my way to buy USA Made suspension parts for the Cadillacs I own and service for others. I can usually find NOS USA Made on E Bay, however, I was only able to find one K5155 "old USA Made stock" so I bought a NEW Mexican Made K5155 from Rock Auto. The NOS one installed correctly with the proper diameters matching the openings in the lower control arm.


The Mexican MOOG one did not have the correct diameter on one end and was therefore not tight on that end. Upon calling MOOG tech line they explained that they were "aware of this problem" but would not recall them. When I asked what they suggested they had no answer. When asked if they planned to recall these as defective they said "recalls are only for safety issues." Needless to say Rock Auto took it back and I was able to get another USA Made one from Then and Now in Weymouth MA.


I am passing this on because many 61 - 69 Cadillacs need these bushings and EBay and Rock Auto are flooded with MOOG and other brands. If you are planning on rebuilding your front end try to get NOS USA Made parts.
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Offline cadillacmike68

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Re: Beware of Mexican MOOG Lower Control Arm Bushings for 61- 69 Cadillac
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2017, 10:52:38 AM »
I just had about 3 pairs of Moog K246 upper A-arm bushings bad out of the box. Not sure of the country of origin, I'll have to check. There are also flood damaged parts sitting out there now...
Regards,
"Cadillac" Mike
Current:
1968 DeVille Convertible
1996 Fleetwood Brougham
2009 STS NorthStar Platinum ed RWD
2011 CTS PRemiun ed Sedan RWD
Past:
2008 CTS Premium ed Sedan AWD
2005 CTS Hi-Feature Sedan RWD
2000 ElDorado ESC Hard Boot Convertible
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1970 Fleetwood Brougham
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Re: Beware of Mexican MOOG Lower Control Arm Bushings for 61- 69 Cadillac
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2017, 11:36:53 AM »
K246 fits what years? I know on the 61 - 69 they had two - 1 7/16" and 1 1/2". Did you order the wrong diameter?
1961 Eldorado - Shell Pearl/Mauve
1959 Coupe DeVille - Vegas Turquoise
2012 CTS Coupe- Crystal Red
1970 AMX

Offline cadillacmike68

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Re: Beware of Mexican MOOG Lower Control Arm Bushings for 61- 69 Cadillac
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2017, 10:04:41 PM »
K246 fits what years? I know on the 61 - 69 they had two - 1 7/16" and 1 1/2". Did you order the wrong diameter?

Mine is a 1968, 1 & 1/2 in. I had them measured before buying them. I think the ones I got were partially rusted from storage.  I have no idea why they used two different sizes, maybe the larger ones for Climate Control equipped cars??? In 1970 they changed the shaft to a straight shaft. The Moog K5187 ( 1 & 7/16) lists as fitting all the way thru 1976, the the K246 (1.5") only lists to 1968.
 
Whatever, I now have mine noted as the 1.5in ones.

But then again I bought upper bushings, you replaced the lower bushings which went from 1961-69.
Regards,
"Cadillac" Mike
Current:
1968 DeVille Convertible
1996 Fleetwood Brougham
2009 STS NorthStar Platinum ed RWD
2011 CTS PRemiun ed Sedan RWD
Past:
2008 CTS Premium ed Sedan AWD
2005 CTS Hi-Feature Sedan RWD
2000 ElDorado ESC Hard Boot Convertible
1995 Fleetwood Brougham
1973 Sedan DeVille
1970 Fleetwood Brougham
1969 DeVille Convertible

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Re: Beware of Mexican MOOG Lower Control Arm Bushings for 61- 69 Cadillac
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2017, 09:20:19 AM »
The 67 I am doing the front end on had 1.5" on the right and 1 7\16" on the left. I bought 4 NOS Moog 1.5" bushings based on what was on the r.h. side. When I saw the LH side was 1 7\16" I decided to use another control arm from a 45,000 mile 63 I parted out which had 1.5" bushings. It's always a challenge to source the right parts for these old Cadillacs.
1961 Eldorado - Shell Pearl/Mauve
1959 Coupe DeVille - Vegas Turquoise
2012 CTS Coupe- Crystal Red
1970 AMX