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Need advice-37 LaSalle

Started by bpowell, October 10, 2017, 09:59:17 AM

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bpowell

I am getting ready to remove the engine from my completely assembled 37 LaSalle.

For those of you who have done this before, should I remove the front sheet metal?

Working over and around all that sheet metal with a large chunk of iron has me a little worried.

Thanks for your help

bpowell

Steve Passmore

Yes, remove as much as you can. Hood, Front clip, Rad, and bumper. Even the front fenders would be best. I left my fenders in place but boy wish I hadn't. It made it really difficult and If I had good paintwork the inner fenders would be damaged.
Steve

Present
1937 60 convertible coupe
1941 62 convertible coupe
1941 62 coupe

Previous
1936 70 Sport coupe
1937 85 series V12 sedan
1938 60 coupe
1938 50 coupe
1939 60S
1940 62 coupe
1941 62 convertible coupe x2
1941 61 coupe
1941 61 sedan x2
1941 62 sedan x2
1947 62 sedan
1959 62 coupe

bpowell

Thanks Steve,

That is what I was thinking.  My paint is quite good, don't want to mess that up.

Bpowell

KenZ

Bpowell,
I just replaced the engine in my 1936 Cadillac 7529 with a Gantry Crane/Hoist.  I was able to remove the engine with only taking off the hood, ornament and horns.  The 1937 LaSalle would probably require the removal of the radiator.  With a Gantry Crane you can vertically lift the engine up until it clears the front clip and fenders then roll away until clear.  If equipped with side mount tires it would be beneficial to remove them also. Granted, I had to buy the Gantry but it should be useful for other projects.  I liked it better than having used a cherry picker in the past.  I can send further details and pictures if interested.  Have Fun!  KenZ     

bpowell

Thanks Ken for your input.
I already own a cherry picker, so I'll probably go that way.
The bumper needs to come off anyway for some work.

A prior owner installed a 47 engine into my car and it does not fit properly. I got a 37 LaSalle engine that Eddie Jones had, and it is almost ready to go in.
Any one have a starter nose? They butchered it to make it work with the newer block.

bpowell

Bobby B

Quote from: Steve Passmore on October 10, 2017, 10:46:14 AM
Yes, remove as much as you can. Hood, Front clip, Rad, and bumper. Even the front fenders would be best. I left my fenders in place but boy wish I hadn't. It made it really difficult and If I had good paintwork the inner fenders would be damaged.
The way to go....A LOT of Weight and imbalance going on there. If you have the time, take Steve's advice. ;) It will slide right in, with very little height needed.  Been there, done that........
                                                                                                                                                                Bobby
1947 Cadillac Series 62 Convertible Coupe
1968 Mustang Convertible
1973 Mustang Convertible
1969 Jaguar E-Type Roadster
1971 Datsun 240Z
1979 H-D FLH

Steve Passmore

Quote from: KenZ on October 10, 2017, 04:53:07 PM
Bpowell,
I just replaced the engine in my 1936 Cadillac 7529 with a Gantry Crane/Hoist.  I was able to remove the engine with only taking off the hood, ornament and horns.  The 1937 LaSalle would probably require the removal of the radiator.  With a Gantry Crane you can vertically lift the engine up until it clears the front clip and fenders then roll away until clear.  If equipped with side mount tires it would   KenZ   

With all due respect Ken, the room in the engine bay on a 75 is a lot more than a 50 series. 
I recently removed the engine on my 38 LaSalle and there was not enough room to pull that motor without taking the entire front clip off. Even then the motor caught the front fenders before the transmission cleared the chassis and the oil pan cleared the cross member.
Steve

Present
1937 60 convertible coupe
1941 62 convertible coupe
1941 62 coupe

Previous
1936 70 Sport coupe
1937 85 series V12 sedan
1938 60 coupe
1938 50 coupe
1939 60S
1940 62 coupe
1941 62 convertible coupe x2
1941 61 coupe
1941 61 sedan x2
1941 62 sedan x2
1947 62 sedan
1959 62 coupe

KenZ

Hi Steve,
Yes, I agree there is more space in the Fleetwood.  The engine was removed by itself with separating and sliding the transmission back.  It was just a thought and in my case the engine removal and replacement went very well.  I personally cannot speak to the 1937 LaSalle.  I have past experience using hoists and cranes from my aviation back round so this was nothing really new to me.  As you may remember we discussed alot of this project.  I really appreciate your insight and by all means your opinion counts in my book!  KenZ             

virgil

Hi Steve.   The old time mechanics pulled the entire "dog house"- front fenders, grille and rad assembly as a unit in order to get at the engine for removal .    Virgil Lysgaard.

Steve Passmore

Yes, that's how the old books used to advise. Much easier with plenty of hands.
Steve

Present
1937 60 convertible coupe
1941 62 convertible coupe
1941 62 coupe

Previous
1936 70 Sport coupe
1937 85 series V12 sedan
1938 60 coupe
1938 50 coupe
1939 60S
1940 62 coupe
1941 62 convertible coupe x2
1941 61 coupe
1941 61 sedan x2
1941 62 sedan x2
1947 62 sedan
1959 62 coupe

bpowell

Just me probably doing most of it. Piece by piece, but I'll get er done.

Thanks for all the advice.

Bpowell

Bobby B

Quote from: bpowell on October 19, 2017, 12:10:50 PM
Just me probably doing most of it. Piece by piece, but I'll get er done.
Thanks for all the advice.

Bill,
I installed the engine/trans myself. No one ever seems to be available when you need them, and I'm impatient if I'm at that point. ::) If you have the nose out and it's wide open, it's a piece of cake. Just make sure it's safe, all your ducks are in place, and it'll slide right in there. Have your floor jack ready under the trans and just take your time to avoid any accidents. If you have help it's better. Had it in and set in 15 minutes......
                                                                                                                                     Bobby
1947 Cadillac Series 62 Convertible Coupe
1968 Mustang Convertible
1973 Mustang Convertible
1969 Jaguar E-Type Roadster
1971 Datsun 240Z
1979 H-D FLH

cynicalmj

I removed fenders, nose, radiator, everything as a unit. It's not as heavy as I imagined but I used the engine hoist to lift it and move it around.  Makes it so easy to work with. Going give the front suspension some attention while it is exposed and easy to get to.

bpowell

Thanks for the advice. I ended up removing piece by piece. It worked out good.

Billp

cynicalmj

Actually I was happy with the way everything fit together and didn't want to disturb it.