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Changing the exterior color of my 67 Eldorado - my dilemma

Started by www.eldorado-seville.com, November 17, 2017, 12:42:29 PM

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67_Eldo

Your rear-window area looks great! I hope my local shop does as well on my car.

Good luck!

Eric DeVirgilis CLC# 8621

Quote from: www.eldorado-seville.com on November 23, 2017, 05:08:40 AM
Suddenly I no longer see the point of painting it in its original white color all that clearly any more... Its really strange... Lot of things to think about...

Quote from: www.eldorado-seville.com on November 18, 2017, 12:37:05 PM
I think I will honor the cars history and keep the original color.
Personally I would probably never buy a car where the color was changed during restoration...

Seemed to me you had answered your own question; difficult to understand why the change of heart now... ???

It's your car - do as you wish.
A Cadillac Motorcar is a Possession for which there is no Acceptable Substitute

www.eldorado-seville.com

Quote from: Eric DeVirgilis CLC# 8621 on November 23, 2017, 12:43:45 PM
Seemed to me you had answered your own question; difficult to understand why the change of heart now... ???

It's your car - do as you wish.
Lots of mood swings lately. Seeing the car fully striped in bare metal and now in wash primer took some of the magic the car had away. It just did not feel like the same car any longer... I still have a couple more weeks for a final decision...
Gerald Loidl
1958 Cadillac Eldorado Seville
1966 Cadillac Coupe deVille
1967 Cadillac DeVille
1967 Cadillac Fleetwood Eldorado
1974 Cadillac Coupe deVille
1978 Cadillac Eldorado Biarritz
http://www.eldorado-seville.com
http://www.cadillac-bigmeet.com

cadillac ken

Don't feel bad.  Do the color you want at this point.  I think most here were not really against the color change so much as the paint restoration.

Once you decided to address the body issues and rust, it's now time to enjoy the new color on the car you will undoubtedly enjoy for many years.

CHEERS, Ken  ;D

Scot Minesinger

The darker colors seem to work best on these Cadillacs, they make it look longer and sleeker.  Go with the blue.  Also, don't forget to keep those door edge guards off, those really break up the lines of the car.  Note that the picture you sent on this post in blue did not have door edge guards.
Fairfax Station, VA  22039 (Washington DC Sub)
1970 Cadillac DeVille Convertible
1970 Cadillac Sedan DeVille
1970 four door Convertible w/Cadillac Warranty

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Just a little follow up on my 67 Eldorado restoration on this older thread.
The restoration is now finished and the car looks spectacular IMHO
Here are some pictures for you to enjoy:




And here is a video where my car can be seen in motion:
https://youtu.be/Ce5uqsDmvbg

The shop which painted the car did an outstanding job - I think its the best paint job I have ever seen.
I do have to admit though, that I sometimes think that I should have kept the original white ;-)
Gerald Loidl
1958 Cadillac Eldorado Seville
1966 Cadillac Coupe deVille
1967 Cadillac DeVille
1967 Cadillac Fleetwood Eldorado
1974 Cadillac Coupe deVille
1978 Cadillac Eldorado Biarritz
http://www.eldorado-seville.com
http://www.cadillac-bigmeet.com

67_Eldo

Great job with the car, the paint, the pictures, and the video.

The color you chose is beautiful, but I think that my Eldo will remain its original Grecian White when repaint time comes (this year). :-)

Thanks!

Scot Minesinger

Spectacular!!!!!!!!!

Great choice.  The color is so right because it is flattering to the car and blue is not a color used much today, so it stands out even more in modern traffic (safety and cool image purposes).  Also, noticed no door edge guards which makes the lines of the car even better than with the st st door edge guards.

Enjoy your Cadillac!
Fairfax Station, VA  22039 (Washington DC Sub)
1970 Cadillac DeVille Convertible
1970 Cadillac Sedan DeVille
1970 four door Convertible w/Cadillac Warranty

Roger Zimmermann

#48
Definitively, the car is more dramatic in blue than in white. Good choice!
1956 Sedan de Ville (sold)
1956 Eldorado Biarritz
1957 Eldorado Brougham (sold)
1972 Coupe de Ville
2011 DTS
CLCMRC benefactor #101

Dan LeBlanc

Wow. Excellent choice!  Better than black in my opinion.
Dan LeBlanc
1977 Lincoln Continental Town Car

cadillacmike68

#50
White is ok but its boring.

That Atlantic Blue Firemist looks Great.
Regards,
"Cadillac" Mike

www.eldorado-seville.com

Quote from: 67_Eldo on July 28, 2018, 10:22:14 AM
Great job with the car, the paint, the pictures, and the video.

The color you chose is beautiful, but I think that my Eldo will remain its original Grecian White when repaint time comes (this year). :-)

Thanks!
That's a great choice. Looking at the old pictures of my car when it was still white, I now see it differently and Grecian White is a nice choice. Go for the original color! On my car the color change was done without leaving a single trace of the original color anywhere. Even the inside of the trunk lid was striped and repainted. A perfect color change needs a ton of extra work if done correctly... Looking forward to seeing your car looking new again!
Gerald Loidl
1958 Cadillac Eldorado Seville
1966 Cadillac Coupe deVille
1967 Cadillac DeVille
1967 Cadillac Fleetwood Eldorado
1974 Cadillac Coupe deVille
1978 Cadillac Eldorado Biarritz
http://www.eldorado-seville.com
http://www.cadillac-bigmeet.com

www.eldorado-seville.com

Quote from: Scot Minesinger on July 28, 2018, 02:32:38 PM
Spectacular!!!!!!!!!

Great choice.  The color is so right because it is flattering to the car and blue is not a color used much today, so it stands out even more in modern traffic (safety and cool image purposes).  Also, noticed no door edge guards which makes the lines of the car even better than with the st st door edge guards.

Enjoy your Cadillac!
Thanks Scot!
Great that you noticed that I did not reinstall the door edge guards. It was your tip that made me think about them. Without your input I would have put them back onto the car. I restored them to perfection though - just in case - but it looks like I will never put them back onto the car. You are right - it looks much smoother without them and the brochure car did not have them as well...
Gerald Loidl
1958 Cadillac Eldorado Seville
1966 Cadillac Coupe deVille
1967 Cadillac DeVille
1967 Cadillac Fleetwood Eldorado
1974 Cadillac Coupe deVille
1978 Cadillac Eldorado Biarritz
http://www.eldorado-seville.com
http://www.cadillac-bigmeet.com

savemy67

Hello Gerald,

I add my compliments to the other's.  While there is certainly nothing wrong with Grecian White, I think you made a good choice.

On some cars, white can look spectacular.  On this series Eldorado, I think the darker colors make a good car look even better.  Well done - ausgezeichnet!

Christopher Winter
Christopher Winter
1967 Sedan DeVille hardtop

fishnjim

Hope U R happy.   Nice car either way.
If that first picture is original '67 paint, saying it was "too far gone", says something.   Unless the other side is rotted out, wrecked, or
something dissimilar to the shown side, gloss and coverage was real good.   Factory paint won't necessarily be as "good" as new from a
good painter with modern paints.   Apples v oranges.   Even with the robots, factory can have thin areas.   Another reason they are trending to powder.
Color is personal preference(eye of beholder), but if I was looking to buy, good original paint would be preferred, regardless of color.   I don't buy white,
generally, but I got a repaint white, that was once also blue, in the garage, that's begging to go back to original black...  So yours may see more colors in it's future.   
A lot depends on the style/period of the car.   The wide bodies always look better dark.   In white, this eldo appears wider below the belt line than in the dark blue to me. 

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Quote from: fishnjim on July 29, 2018, 08:22:52 PM
Hope U R happy.   Nice car either way.
If that first picture is original '67 paint, saying it was "too far gone", says something.   Unless the other side is rotted out, wrecked, or
something dissimilar to the shown side, gloss and coverage was real good.   Factory paint won't necessarily be as "good" as new from a
good painter with modern paints.
I agree that my car looked great on the pictures. I polished it to a high gloss before I took the pictures and it looked great from a certain distance and on pictures. One had to look closer to see why the paint was too far gone. Unfortunately it was beyond repairable in some areas, while only very few could probably be saved.

I talked to a couple of professionals before I decided to do a complete re-paint. I asked them if there would be any possibility to save most of the original paint or only do some touch ups. Everybody I talked to said that it would make no sense, because there was not a single body panel which was not damaged in some way. People who knew my car only from pictures, and saw them in real life for the first time, always asked if this really was the same car ;-)

Here are some close-ups of the bad areas. After the paint was removed it looked even more severe:































and much more... all the pictures from the restoration can be seen here (warning - more than 500 pictures!http://www.eldorado-seville.com/mycars/67eldo/restoration/ http://www.eldorado-seville.com/mycars/67eldo/restoration/
Gerald Loidl
1958 Cadillac Eldorado Seville
1966 Cadillac Coupe deVille
1967 Cadillac DeVille
1967 Cadillac Fleetwood Eldorado
1974 Cadillac Coupe deVille
1978 Cadillac Eldorado Biarritz
http://www.eldorado-seville.com
http://www.cadillac-bigmeet.com

DeVille68

Very nice! Gratulation Gerald!

In my opinion the dark blue looks better than the white. But in general I do like the bright colors better on Cadillacs, they bring out the lines better.

Best regards,
Nicolas
1968 Cadillac DeVille Convertible (silver pine green)

67_Eldo

A number of your photos look strangely familiar! :-)

I've still got to look into what I hope is a small group of rust bubbles on the metal below the lower driver's-side door hinge. It could be minor or it could be a real pain. I just got an endoscope that I can (hopefullu) poke in there and take some pictures.

Thanks again for all your photos and valuable documentation!