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Offline tripwire

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How many variations of the CLC Cloisonne Grille Badge are there?
« on: November 22, 2017, 07:54:44 AM »
So, I was bouncing around eBay last night and I found a couple of different CLC grille badges up for bid. One with a yellow background & one with a red background.  Neither had the V6 included.  I know the one offered on the club website is fairly new since it has a V6 on it.  Now I'm curious to learn how many versions of this badge exist.  Can anyone fill me in?

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Re: How many variations of the CLC Cloisonne Grille Badge are there?
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2017, 07:12:56 PM »
The top one looks to be the first, I have one squirreled away for use some day.
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Re: How many variations of the CLC Cloisonne Grille Badge are there?
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2017, 08:29:10 PM »
What I'd like to know is when are they going to make ones that don't get all gnarly & nasty in the heat & sun of Florida!!!
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Re: How many variations of the CLC Cloisonne Grille Badge are there?
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2017, 07:54:21 AM »
Way back when we were thinking of "redoing" the first blue badge, Norm Uhlir had sent the order in (I can't remember the country the firm was located in.) and they mis-read the color instructions, thinking that whatever background color we had chosen was in their language, not English, and so they picked up on "blanc," instead of (possibly?) black. And so that is why we have a white emblem, because of a mistake.

Norm does not use a computer so he cannot see this post and make sure the story is 100% accurate for us, but the gist of the tale is that our "white" background is the result of a happy mistake.
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Re: How many variations of the CLC Cloisonne Grille Badge are there?
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2017, 10:46:30 AM »
Thanks for the input, guys.  I was thinking that yellow one was something a bit different so I put a bid in on it and as luck would have it I won it for the princely sum of $13.00 & $2.77 for shipping up here to far away Vermont.  I think it will look good mounted on the front plate on my black 40-5229.

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1966 Buick Wildcat Hearse
1957 Ford Thunderbird x 3, 1 E code, 2 D code
1956 Oldsmobile Rocket 88 Sedan
1949 Mercury Convertible
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Re: How many variations of the CLC Cloisonne Grille Badge are there?
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2017, 02:41:51 PM »
HI, the newer badges are suppose to have been upgraded to withstand the sun. I have to wait and see on mine.
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Re: How many variations of the CLC Cloisonne Grille Badge are there?
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2017, 07:51:42 PM »
HI, the newer badges are suppose to have been upgraded to withstand the sun. I have to wait and see on mine.

Where did you hear that from? I'd get new ones if they are more durable, but I'm not spending over $200 for the same ones that will just degrade in a couple months.
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Re: How many variations of the CLC Cloisonne Grille Badge are there?
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2017, 01:25:03 AM »
The V-6 designation was added to the CLC logo in 2007 after a board vote to recognize Cadillac's manufacture of a V-6 engine in the Cimarron and CTS. The ampersand in the club's name was added at the same time.
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Re: How many variations of the CLC Cloisonne Grille Badge are there?
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2017, 04:57:02 PM »
If these badges are true cloisonne, they should be very durable, since the cloisonne technique involves melting and fusing colored, powdered glass onto a metal substrate (usually silver or gold in jewelry-making). Obviously, any metal with a low melting point (like aluminum or pot metal) could not be used because it would melt during the glass fusing process, so the metal should be pretty durable as well.

My badge appears to have a brass or bronze substrate. It is possible that a combination of salt air and heat, for instance, could cause some corrosion of the metal, but I don't understand how weather could effect the glass.

Maybe I should only install the badge for shows if they're that delicate.
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Re: How many variations of the CLC Cloisonne Grille Badge are there?
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2017, 08:09:22 PM »
Folks,
I did not see this one emblem shown.

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Re: How many variations of the CLC Cloisonne Grille Badge are there?
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2017, 12:13:23 AM »
Attached is a picture of the one I put on the my daily driver68 ELDO, probably in the mid 80s.   
If you zoom in you can see some rock chips but the colors are still good.  The only thing I did not like about it is the mounting stud is metric
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Re: How many variations of the CLC Cloisonne Grille Badge are there?
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2017, 07:23:10 PM »
Mine was replaced free of charge at this years Grand National. There, I was told they were better made. Like I said, I will wait and see how durable it actually is.
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Re: How many variations of the CLC Cloisonne Grille Badge are there?
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2017, 11:45:05 PM »
If these badges are true cloisonne, they should be very durable, since the cloisonne technique involves melting and fusing colored, powdered glass onto a metal substrate (usually silver or gold in jewelry-making). Obviously, any metal with a low melting point (like aluminum or pot metal) could not be used because it would melt during the glass fusing process, so the metal should be pretty durable as well.

My badge appears to have a brass or bronze substrate. It is possible that a combination of salt air and heat, for instance, could cause some corrosion of the metal, but I don't understand how weather could effect the glass.

Maybe I should only install the badge for shows if they're that delicate.

The center where the little crest fits over is (or at least was) a red plastic that not only warps in the sun it de-laminates from the larger metal shell. And the white gets real dingy and the bronze / brass lettering will not polish up, and being an old Army vet I can polish just about anything.

At nearly $50 each (back around 2001 or so) I'm highly disappointed in them.
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Re: How many variations of the CLC Cloisonne Grille Badge are there?
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2017, 02:28:04 PM »
GENTLEMAN: THE BADGES THAT FADE CAN BE REPLACD FREE OF CHARGE, I REPLACED MINE AT THIS YEARS GRAND NATIONAL!
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« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2017, 08:07:43 PM »
GENTLEMAN: THE BADGES THAT FADE CAN BE REPLACD FREE OF CHARGE, I REPLACED MINE AT THIS YEARS GRAND NATIONAL!

OK, what do we do, Write to National? I presume that want the bad ones back first???  If I can get my two replaced, I Might get a couple more for my newer cars...
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Re: How many variations of the CLC Cloisonne Grille Badge are there?
« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2017, 03:25:38 PM »
Call Mike or Nancy Book and they will assist with the details.
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« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2017, 06:50:56 PM »
Sounds good, Thanks.
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