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Offline BJM

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Re: Looks like Code 47 - Wisteria Metallic
« Reply #40 on: November 28, 2017, 07:14:07 AM »
That was my thought as well, ie: car ordered by GM bigwig insider.

In that vein, another possibility is Chateau Mauve Firemist (Code 98) of 1969 and 1970.

Original Michigan ownership/delivery outlet code might corroborate this but unfortunately 1968 build data sheets have been lost as Dave says.

It appears the car was delivered to a Marshalltown Iowa dealer because the dealer tag is on the trunk.  I live in Des Moines, Iowa. Marshalltown is a town of about 25,000 45 minutes northeast of Des Moines.

Marshalltown has no claim to fame manufacturer or such, such as Newton Iowa did with it's Maytag brand.  I once went through a small town in northwest-central Iowa that had a rich guy that invented something, his wife loved castles, so there are castles everywhere.  His home is a castle on the hill. 

My point there is perhaps - we may never know without extensive research - someone was rich enough in Marshalltown to want this 00 paint and wait for it. 

Iowa is snowy of course, and FWD would be an advantage in 1968.  I wonder who as a demographic purchased Eldorados?  It had to be one of the most expensive cars in America in 1968.  It was a personal luxury statement car. 
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Re: 1968 Eldorado on CL - 00 Paint Code
« Reply #41 on: November 28, 2017, 08:25:27 AM »
When I get time I'll scan the rest in.    Road Test Magazine Sep 68.

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Re: 1968 Eldorado on CL - 00 Paint Code
« Reply #42 on: November 28, 2017, 08:34:21 AM »
Just that page was interesting....

I just don't get it.  A Marshalltown Iowa Cadillac dealer gets someone walk in order a 00 code Cadillac.  Weird.

I just googled Cadillac Dealer in Marshalltown and there is none.  Once I get the car, I will pull the tag and do more research but those records are 50 years old, probably nothing around, but we will see. 

He has a title, so there has been titles since originally owned. In Iowa, they get turned in when you want a title in your name.  I could approach the Polk County Iowa office that processes these request or the DOT. 

In the case of the DOT, I have gotten a Bonded Title for a car I purchased out of state, and they have a good deal of information.  I am not sure how many times they get oddball research requests, but hopefully they can help. 
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Re: 1968 Eldorado on CL - 00 Paint Code
« Reply #43 on: November 28, 2017, 09:02:21 AM »
You could contact the Historical Society out there in Marshalltown and inquire about that dealership, when it closed, if it moved etc.

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Re: 1968 Eldorado on CL - 00 Paint Code
« Reply #44 on: November 28, 2017, 05:18:31 PM »
Just that page was interesting....

I just don't get it.  A Marshalltown Iowa Cadillac dealer gets someone walk in order a 00 code Cadillac.  Weird.

I just googled Cadillac Dealer in Marshalltown and there is none.  Once I get the car, I will pull the tag and do more research but those records are 50 years old, probably nothing around, but we will see. 

He has a title, so there has been titles since originally owned. In Iowa, they get turned in when you want a title in your name.  I could approach the Polk County Iowa office that processes these request or the DOT. 

In the case of the DOT, I have gotten a Bonded Title for a car I purchased out of state, and they have a good deal of information.  I am not sure how many times they get oddball research requests, but hopefully they can help.

Can you get information from the Federal DOT on titles of old cars -- as old as 1968 or earlier? Or are you referring to a state office?  I would love to be able to get information on the original buyer (Boston area, I believe) for my '52.  Any advice about doing that?  Any hope? I do have complete information from 1977 forward.

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Re: 1968 Eldorado on CL - 00 Paint Code
« Reply #45 on: November 28, 2017, 07:24:42 PM »
OK Eric.  Like said, we each have our own opinions and I respect yours.  Thank you for your input! 

Ok, but Eric is correct. The 1974s were already being sold when the arabs retaliated on our support of Israel in the 1973 war late in 1973. There was absolutely nothing that could be done for 1974 and it took 3 years to get the 1977 downsized cars out.

Oh yes, the 472 was stroked by approx .26" to get it to 500 CID. It was not bored.
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Offline BJM

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Re: 1968 Eldorado on CL - 00 Paint Code
« Reply #46 on: November 28, 2017, 09:54:55 PM »
Ok, but Eric is correct. The 1974s were already being sold when the arabs retaliated on our support of Israel in the 1973 war late in 1973. There was absolutely nothing that could be done for 1974 and it took 3 years to get the 1977 downsized cars out.

Oh yes, the 472 was stroked by approx .26" to get it to 500 CID. It was not bored.

Yes I agree. The 500 cid was the right choice for Cadillac in 1970.  Further research indicated the efficacy of the 500 cid.  Excellent choice and historically has held up as one of the world's finest engines.   
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Re: 1968 Eldorado on CL - 00 Paint Code
« Reply #47 on: November 28, 2017, 11:05:06 PM »
Bryan, you're going to get it - correct? It's a great color and too rare to pass up on. Let us know how it works out.

And even though mine is an RWD convertible, there is a lot in common with all the 1968s, so don't hesitate to ask questions.
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2011 CTS PRemiun ed Sedan RWD
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Offline BJM

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Re: 1968 Eldorado on CL - 00 Paint Code
« Reply #48 on: November 29, 2017, 10:33:20 AM »
Hi Mike:
The seller and I have agreed on me purchasing the vehicle and he has pulled it from Craigs List (I  think).   He texted to just let him know when I was picking it up.  So I put one of my 3 Reattas on CL and now on ebay and zero interest.  Oh well.  I don't have the room for 4.  Hopefully the Reatta will sell. 

Bryan J Moran
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Des Moines, Iowa
1968 Cadillac Eldorado

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Re: 1968 Eldorado on CL - 00 Paint Code
« Reply #49 on: December 10, 2017, 01:21:58 PM »
Just rejoined the club for 2 year stint.  I hope my Self Starter starts in January.  Will also be reaching out to the Iowa chapter soon. 
Bryan J Moran
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Des Moines, Iowa
1968 Cadillac Eldorado

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Re: 1968 Eldorado on CL - 00 Paint Code
« Reply #50 on: December 10, 2017, 01:32:33 PM »
Congratulations and best of luck with the restoration. Welcome back to the CLC!
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Re: 1968 Eldorado on CL - 00 Paint Code
« Reply #51 on: December 10, 2017, 05:29:16 PM »
Can't wait to see photos of it when you get it home.

Offline P. Manoogian

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Re: 1968 Eldorado on CL - 00 Paint Code
« Reply #52 on: December 10, 2017, 05:53:47 PM »
You're all wrong. It's clearly 1961 Code 99 'Shell Pearl." 99 is before 00...more evidence... 8)
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