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Offline chrisntam

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Why no Self Starter for December?
« on: December 02, 2017, 08:33:08 PM »
What's the logic on this one?

Sure would like one 12 for year....

As a side note, I'm a consumer, not a contributor, so it's easy for me on my end....

 ;)
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Offline Barry M Wheeler #2189

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Re: Why no Self Starter for December?
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2017, 10:26:30 PM »
Very simply, "It's the way it's always been..." (Since 1958)



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Offline The Tassie Devil(le)

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Re: Why no Self Starter for December?
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2017, 11:50:30 PM »
Think of it as a Vacation.

Both for the Editor and the Printer.   In the old days when everything was voluntary, sometimes a break was as good as a holiday.

Bruce. >:D
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Offline Eric DeVirgilis CLC# 8621

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Re: Why no Self Starter for December?
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2017, 12:56:19 PM »
Think of the Membership Directory as the "December" issue!  ;)
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Offline cadillacmike68

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Re: Why no Self Starter for December?
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2017, 10:56:34 AM »
^^^ That's always how I considered it.
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Offline The Tassie Devil(le)

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Re: Why no Self Starter for December?
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2017, 03:05:18 PM »
Think of the Membership Directory as the "December" issue!  ;)
By the time one gets finished reading through the Directory, one will be ready for the January issue. ;)

Bruce. >:D
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Offline Art Director

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Re: Why no Self Starter for December?
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2017, 10:50:56 AM »
This art director would have burned out years ago if there was a separate December issue. The editor and I welcome the break to recharge our batteries for the upcoming new year. Many other car clubs issue only four or six magazines a year, so the CLC printing 11 is a bonus!
Tim Coy
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Offline BJM

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Re: Why no Self Starter for December?
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2017, 01:10:16 PM »
Buick Club of America has 12 issues.
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Offline Barry M Wheeler #2189

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Re: Why no Self Starter for December?
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2017, 01:27:45 PM »
I am one of the very, very few members who can say, "Doing this is no picnic." I did one issue for Agnes Uhlir in Nov/Dec 1967. All I did was ask for members pictures and pasted them on sheets in year order. (Back then we only went from 1902-1942.) When I got through, I did NOT want to do it again.

So I don't really care how many issues the BCA has. I've been accepting eleven issues per year for fifty three years and have never felt "cheated" out of an issue.

(And being able to say I've been an "editor" of the S/S just once ranks right up with being President for four years.)
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Offline Dan LeBlanc

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Re: Why no Self Starter for December?
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2017, 01:45:15 PM »
I think with all the hard work that Tim, Steve, and everyone puts into the Self Starter every month, they deserve the break.  I'm happy to have 11 issues of an outstanding magazine to give them a break.  We all know they more than earned it.

I got my first LCOC magazine this month and it is nice, but it's just a notch below the S/S . . . and it's done bi-monthly!
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Re: Why no Self Starter for December?
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2017, 03:07:49 PM »
We are lucky that we receive this first class publication at all. I have retired from a sports association with over 5 million members board of directors after 35 years. Years ago we had a monthly magazine and publish hundreds of thousands of rule books for each sport.
Because of the increasing cost of printing and postage we quite offering any printed publications, all are posted on line. The tremendous savings have allowed the association to do great things on other fronts.
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Offline Maynard Krebs

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Re: Why no Self Starter for December?
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2017, 06:08:59 PM »
I am one of the very, very few members who can say, "Doing this is no picnic." I did one issue for Agnes Uhlir in Nov/Dec 1967. All I did was ask for members pictures and pasted them on sheets in year order. (Back then we only went from 1902-1942.) When I got through, I did NOT want to do it again.

So I don't really care how many issues the BCA has. I've been accepting eleven issues per year for fifty three years and have never felt "cheated" out of an issue.

(And being able to say I've been an "editor" of the S/S just once ranks right up with being President for four years.)

I myself volunteered for the editor job in a club for a "Brand X" publication... that didn't have any deadlines, etc..   Yet it was a frustrating experience at the time.   I did it for two years... and as I was three months away from completing that second year, I made up my mind then.. that I would resign at the end of the second year.   I'm glad that I did it; I made a contribution to that club; but I never wanted to do it again, FWIW.   It's a thankless job, in reality.

Offline BJM

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Re: Why no Self Starter for December?
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2017, 08:06:33 PM »
I am one of the very, very few members who can say, "Doing this is no picnic." I did one issue for Agnes Uhlir in Nov/Dec 1967. All I did was ask for members pictures and pasted them on sheets in year order. (Back then we only went from 1902-1942.) When I got through, I did NOT want to do it again.

So I don't really care how many issues the BCA has. I've been accepting eleven issues per year for fifty three years and have never felt "cheated" out of an issue.

(And being able to say I've been an "editor" of the S/S just once ranks right up with being President for four years.)

I know.  11 is enough.  There is a discussion every year in the BCA over the $50 cost of the Buick Club.  I recommended they go down to 6 issues, every other month.  Lower dues, and the magazines might be better, make them bigger, more content, less months. 
Bryan J Moran
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Offline bcroe

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Why no Self Starter for December?
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2017, 11:53:52 AM »
I think the magazine is fabulous quality, and the directory quality is far
beyond comparison to any other car org.  The break helps make all this
possible, lets complement, not complain.  I feel a little guilty at not being
able to contribute very much to the mag.  Bruce Roe

Offline Barry M Wheeler #2189

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Re: Why no Self Starter for December?
« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2017, 01:10:34 PM »
Hey, write out a little story about how you found your car and send it in. You never know when Steve will need a few pages. You want to know what my first thing to appear in the S/S was? A stupid poem about 1941 Cadillacs. I re-read  it every two years or so. Ugh! Steve will take care of any grave errors you might make. And, over the years, we have found that the most popular stories are ones about "finding your car." (Brian, I'm talking to you now.)

Steve, or Tim. I've been wanting you guys (for years now) to dig out Norm Uhlir's "Two weeks behind the wheel," and reprint it. It was back before I joined. I read John McCardle's copy, or maybe it was Frank Tardy's that I borrowed. Look in the early Sixties and see if you can find it. Not only is it a good read, but it is also the only recorded instance of Norm Uhlir making a mistake relative to the CLC.
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Re: Why no Self Starter for December?
« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2017, 04:37:41 PM »
Barry

As you mention reprints, why not reprint some of the more interesting articles if possible for members who do not have numerous old copies of the Self Starter.

I imagine the only issue may be the photos, but who care if the photos are a bit sub par as long as the read is good.
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Re: Why no Self Starter for December?
« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2017, 08:34:36 AM »
George . . . that may be an interesting section of the S/S.  I think you may be on to something.
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Offline chrisntam

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Re: Why no Self Starter for December?
« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2017, 08:44:58 PM »
Agree, run the good stuff again! 
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Re: Why no Self Starter for December?
« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2017, 10:50:27 PM »
Steve, or Tim. I've been wanting you guys (for years now) to dig out Norm Uhlir's "Two weeks behind the wheel," and reprint it. It was back before I joined. I read John McCardle's copy, or maybe it was Frank Tardy's that I borrowed. Look in the early Sixties and see if you can find it. Not only is it a good read, but it is also the only recorded instance of Norm Uhlir making a mistake relative to the CLC.
Barry, this is the first I've learned about your request. The oldest issue I have is January 1964 (and you'll see the front page in the January 2018 issue). Do you happen to know which issue it might be in? I understand the CLC Museum has a complete set and can probably get the text to us.
Tim Coy
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Offline Barry M Wheeler #2189

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Re: Why no Self Starter for December?
« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2017, 08:20:38 AM »
I'll get in touch with Tim or Paul and see if they can locate a copy. (Or call Norm.) Jan '64. The cover was green and the car was a 1939 60S. "Five hundred miles today and still an hour till sunset..." My first issue, too.
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