Author Topic: 1982 Fleetwood limousine trim issues/restoration  (Read 160 times)

Offline ant2173

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1982 Fleetwood limousine trim issues/restoration
« on: December 06, 2017, 02:00:58 AM »
Hello to all from Moscow, Russia!

I carry out a slow project of refreshing 1982 Cadillac fleetwood factory limousine. To tell the truth the car is in pretty bad condition, but I do not give up and sooner or later I want him make him a real show car.

Now my question is about numerous trim pieces, chrome-plated mouldings, that are located along the body. They are all worn out, faded and even with mechanical damages.

As examples:

1. Windshield moulding piece:

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2. Window mouldings:

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3.

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4.

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5.

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6. Dents on vinyl top mouldings:

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7. Another window moulding:

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These are only a bit of examples, that shows average trim condition. Also it`s not a simple sedan, it`s a factory limo, and I don`t think it`ll be possible to find good trim for rear doors and for long roof.

Could you help me with some advice, how can I revive these moldings? From what materials are they done, and what remedies can be applied to them to make them flat and shiny?

Thanks in advance!
Anton

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Re: 1982 Fleetwood limousine trim issues/restoration
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2017, 02:36:25 AM »
G'day Anton,

For the stainless steel pieces, any good body man should be able to bring them back to life, and then they need polishing.   But, I suppose the question is, are the custom pieces actually Stainless Steel, or simpl;y steel that has been chrome plated.

I will leave the other questions for people that have a better knowledge of these parts.

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Re: 1982 Fleetwood limousine trim issues/restoration
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2017, 06:04:03 AM »
Cadillac limousines of the 1980s had the plastic fender extensions, smaller frames (starting at 1976) and even had a plastic auxiliary fan to cool the engine.  Saying that and having worked with these as new cars at my father's dealership, I wouldn't think the trim pieces were chromed.  I agree that a good trim guy could remove the dents and buff these out.  The trick is getting them off without bending or crushing them.   A lot of the trim holders were slide on and also plastic so check out http://www.rjlautofasteners.com/ and other suppliers to get your fasteners together.
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Offline ant2173

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Re: 1982 Fleetwood limousine trim issues/restoration
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2017, 06:18:04 AM »
Thanks for your replies!

I agree that trim producing technologies of 1980`s were cheaper in comparison with previous years. Although, having carefully examined the moldings, I came into opinion that they are made out of some metal alloy, maybe duralumin, and covered by "chrome" imitating coating.

Since this is not a full-fledged metal and not stainless steel, there must certainly be special technologies for its restorating and polishing...

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Re: 1982 Fleetwood limousine trim issues/restoration
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2017, 09:19:57 AM »
Hi Anton -

Provide a little more info on your car - what car company did the limo conversion- and some people in the professional car circles might have more detail about your trim (what it is made of and restoration process).  The 1982 Fleetwood should still be the full-size, rear-wheel drive model, and they were popular for limo conversions.

Good luck - I am sure that there are not too many of these driving the streets of Moscow!

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Re: 1982 Fleetwood limousine trim issues/restoration
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2017, 09:33:12 AM »
He says the car is a factory production model however I cannot say from the images provided.
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Re: 1982 Fleetwood limousine trim issues/restoration
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2017, 10:11:32 AM »
Yes, it`s a factory RWD limousine, body by Fisher, interior by fleetwood and no other coachbuilders :)

Here are some photos of my car:


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Currently it`s dissasembled for body and paint works.

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« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2017, 10:16:56 AM »
Indeed it is a factory limousine. Engine will be the 6.0 liter V8-6-4 with THM400 transmission.

Good luck with the project. That's quite an undertaking.
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Re: 1982 Fleetwood limousine trim issues/restoration
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2017, 10:31:59 AM »
Thanks! Yes, it`s one of the last big block cadillacs. However, the 8-6-4 system was removed by previous owner, now there`s Rochester Q-jet carbureator  :'(
The issue is that he also removed and threw away the ECM and some of the wiring harness! I already purchased used ECM from eBay, but wiring harness is really hard to find remotely. Your American junkyard workers usually do not keep wiring and cut it into pieces to sell some modules separately.

I understand that it`s quite difficult, long and costly project, that`s why I`m here with hope to receive some help.  :)

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Re: 1982 Fleetwood limousine trim issues/restoration
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2017, 11:10:15 AM »
The V8-6-4 was used in the factory limousine models until 1984 which was the final year for the rear wheel drive model.

For some reason Cadillac did not provide the MPG fuel data panel on Limousine models. I have never been able to discover the reasons why.
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Re: 1982 Fleetwood limousine trim issues/restoration
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2017, 05:27:58 PM »
....For some reason Cadillac did not provide the MPG fuel data panel on Limousine models. I have never been able to discover the reasons why.
Heck, I know why.   The numbers available wouldn't go low enough. ;)

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« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2017, 06:01:41 PM »
Heck, I know why.   The numbers available wouldn't go low enough. ;)

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Either that or fuel economy was the least of the Limousine owner's worries.  ;D
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Re: 1982 Fleetwood limousine trim issues/restoration
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2017, 06:12:14 PM »
Hi, get some very, very, fine steel wool with chrome polish and try it on a small area of somewhere not to noticeable. This worked for me on my 90 Brougham.
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