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Need help with car history 1981 eldorado, check the carfax

Started by Tonyv_73, February 19, 2018, 04:29:17 PM

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Tonyv_73

I own a 1981 Cadillac Eldorado Biarritz, with “74,000” Miles, I recently notice a few issues with my car while changing a few interior bulbs that have led me to want to do a car fax on the car.  I plugged in my vin number online and it says I have 19 records available, could anyone recommend the best website to access these records, Carfax cost $100 where autocheck.com is $50.

Thanks,
Anthony
1963 Series 62 Convertible
1965 Eldorado
1966 Calais Sedan
1970 Fleetwood Brougham
1970 Wildcat
1970 Coupe Deville
1973 Eldorado Convertible
1974 Coupe Deville
1976 Coupe Deville
1981 Eldorado Biarritz
1985 Eldorado Commemorative Edition
1991 Brougham
1993 Eldorado 4.9
1996 Fleetwood Brougham
2006 XLR
2006 DTS
2014 XTS

Eric DeVirgilis CLC# 8621

Isn't a single CarFax report $39.99?

What about the interior lamps is prompting the inquiry?
A Cadillac Motorcar is a Possession for which there is no Acceptable Substitute

D.Smith

Carfax records can be anything from oil changes, emissions testing, State Safety inspection, etc.    Even when the dealer does a repair it isn't always specific.  Some entries are detailed, others just say "serviced".     Also as for older cars, keep in mind there will be zero entries recorded before Carfax existed.    So don't expect much from Carfax on an 81. 

If you have any idea where the car was serviced before you may have better luck taking the VIN to the dealers service dept and running it for any history.

Tonyv_73

#3
Well, does a single report mean I access all the records? And Carfax shows 14 records where as autocheck shows 19.  The lens for “information center” has been crooked since I got the car, and recently the bulb for the cruise control went out, so went i went to change the bulb, all the screws for the speedometer are missing.......
1963 Series 62 Convertible
1965 Eldorado
1966 Calais Sedan
1970 Fleetwood Brougham
1970 Wildcat
1970 Coupe Deville
1973 Eldorado Convertible
1974 Coupe Deville
1976 Coupe Deville
1981 Eldorado Biarritz
1985 Eldorado Commemorative Edition
1991 Brougham
1993 Eldorado 4.9
1996 Fleetwood Brougham
2006 XLR
2006 DTS
2014 XTS

Tonyv_73

I bought the car a year ago, off craigslist. It’s from Florida. I live in New Jersey
1963 Series 62 Convertible
1965 Eldorado
1966 Calais Sedan
1970 Fleetwood Brougham
1970 Wildcat
1970 Coupe Deville
1973 Eldorado Convertible
1974 Coupe Deville
1976 Coupe Deville
1981 Eldorado Biarritz
1985 Eldorado Commemorative Edition
1991 Brougham
1993 Eldorado 4.9
1996 Fleetwood Brougham
2006 XLR
2006 DTS
2014 XTS

Eric DeVirgilis CLC# 8621

A single report will include all records pertaining to the car.

A Cadillac Motorcar is a Possession for which there is no Acceptable Substitute

Tonyv_73

So should I go with carfax or autocheck? And that being said is there anywhere else i should go?
1963 Series 62 Convertible
1965 Eldorado
1966 Calais Sedan
1970 Fleetwood Brougham
1970 Wildcat
1970 Coupe Deville
1973 Eldorado Convertible
1974 Coupe Deville
1976 Coupe Deville
1981 Eldorado Biarritz
1985 Eldorado Commemorative Edition
1991 Brougham
1993 Eldorado 4.9
1996 Fleetwood Brougham
2006 XLR
2006 DTS
2014 XTS

Eric DeVirgilis CLC# 8621

A Cadillac Motorcar is a Possession for which there is no Acceptable Substitute

STS05lg

Tony for an 81 only showing 14-19 records there is a very good chance that all that will come up is state inspections and registration renewals because each counts as a record. For example if I pull up my 05 STS Which I purchased new, I get like 68 records (service and registration renewals). Records on both sites are spotty for pre 2000 cars. The best option is if you have a dealer you know well ask them to run a report as a courtesy it will save you $40. Lynn

Tonyv_73

went with autocheck, found out that there was a potential rollover on the milage in 1999.  The car had 47k miles in 1990, and 164k miles in 1999, then it was bought in 2012 with 64k miles. the car was in an accident in 1993 in ohio, case #371, Data Source: State Agency.  Is there any way i can look up that case number to find the full report?
1963 Series 62 Convertible
1965 Eldorado
1966 Calais Sedan
1970 Fleetwood Brougham
1970 Wildcat
1970 Coupe Deville
1973 Eldorado Convertible
1974 Coupe Deville
1976 Coupe Deville
1981 Eldorado Biarritz
1985 Eldorado Commemorative Edition
1991 Brougham
1993 Eldorado 4.9
1996 Fleetwood Brougham
2006 XLR
2006 DTS
2014 XTS

Dave Shepherd

#10
So you have a mileage roll back which is a Federal offense for starters,   How long have you had this car?  If you were to register this car in the state that the car experienced the odometer roll back you may have had issues with the   reg.  In NYS, for sure!  Any recourse with the seller?  The next car run the Carfax first, obviously. Try my contacting Ohio DMV, ask for a copy of the report, tell them you suspect a fraud was committed when you purchased the car, worth a try.

Tonyv_73

I have had this car for a little over a year, I bought It online, from a guy in florida.  based off the carfax and the autocheck, the car has had 4 owners and has lived in 4 different states.  I can send pictures of the report if anyone is interested!
1963 Series 62 Convertible
1965 Eldorado
1966 Calais Sedan
1970 Fleetwood Brougham
1970 Wildcat
1970 Coupe Deville
1973 Eldorado Convertible
1974 Coupe Deville
1976 Coupe Deville
1981 Eldorado Biarritz
1985 Eldorado Commemorative Edition
1991 Brougham
1993 Eldorado 4.9
1996 Fleetwood Brougham
2006 XLR
2006 DTS
2014 XTS

Tonyv_73

1963 Series 62 Convertible
1965 Eldorado
1966 Calais Sedan
1970 Fleetwood Brougham
1970 Wildcat
1970 Coupe Deville
1973 Eldorado Convertible
1974 Coupe Deville
1976 Coupe Deville
1981 Eldorado Biarritz
1985 Eldorado Commemorative Edition
1991 Brougham
1993 Eldorado 4.9
1996 Fleetwood Brougham
2006 XLR
2006 DTS
2014 XTS

Eric DeVirgilis CLC# 8621

I doubt someone drove a 13 year old 1981 Eldorado 116,000 miles in 5 years. What probably happened is that someone checked the box "In excess of mechanical limits" when it was registered in Georgia.

Seen it done all the time with older cars with careless title clerks who just assume the odometer rolled over because "a car x years old can't have mileage that low".
A Cadillac Motorcar is a Possession for which there is no Acceptable Substitute

Dave Shepherd

Lotta missing mileage intervals, tough to pin down when the rollback occurred.  Carfax seems to supply more info, on the ones I have run, of course no  Carfax before 1981.

Eric DeVirgilis CLC# 8621

Rollback has not been proven.  It is a 5 digit odometer!
A Cadillac Motorcar is a Possession for which there is no Acceptable Substitute

Dave Shepherd

Eric, in  NY, the dmv uses the exceeds mechanical limits only if the odometer is 5 digits, with 6, the state the mileage.

Dave Shepherd

Agreed, so where did the over 100 k come from, some paper submitted then mistakenly entered by the dmv. I'd say  you'd never get to the bottom of this, but it sure looks bad for a future sale.

Eric DeVirgilis CLC# 8621

Quote from: Dave Shepherd on February 19, 2018, 06:57:25 PM
Eric, in  NY, the dmv uses the exceeds mechanical limits only if the odometer is 5 digits, with 6, the state the mileage.

All it takes is for a careless title clerk to check the box and there's 100K added to the title. I see this constantly with older cars.
A Cadillac Motorcar is a Possession for which there is no Acceptable Substitute

Tonyv_73

1963 Series 62 Convertible
1965 Eldorado
1966 Calais Sedan
1970 Fleetwood Brougham
1970 Wildcat
1970 Coupe Deville
1973 Eldorado Convertible
1974 Coupe Deville
1976 Coupe Deville
1981 Eldorado Biarritz
1985 Eldorado Commemorative Edition
1991 Brougham
1993 Eldorado 4.9
1996 Fleetwood Brougham
2006 XLR
2006 DTS
2014 XTS