Thanks for letting me in the Club! I'm eager to learn and network, but my first question for the group is a quick one: I am interested in buying an Eldorado convertible. Ideally 1971-78, Ideally in Persian Lime Firemist w/white leather. I've been following Hemmings, eBay and various classic car sales sites, but have only found one in that combination but it wasn't a good fit to what I aspire to find. Any tips or suggestions where I need to be looking? Thanks!
Welcome to the CLC Message Board.
Firstly, whatever you are looking for, make sure it is the best in bodywork and upholstery you can find. Anything mechanical can be easier fixed than the rest.
One of the problems with white upholstery, and that is the original stuff is that it will be virtually non-existent, because as soon as anyone sits on the seats with Jeans, the blue of the jeans material will start to stain the white leather.
By limiting your search, I feel that you will be missing out on some very good cars, and in one way, it is better to cruise around in something nearly as good, and then some time, what you want, will come into sight.
I waited around for my '72, as I wanted a car with TrackMaster. Passed over a few, and as soon as I saw mine, I managed to purchase it.
Bruce. >:D
It all depends on your pocket book and how much you are willing to spend. Finding the exact one you want may not be impossible if you are willing to wait for the one you want. If you get in a hurry and buy any car they all have problems that need addressed which cost money. It depends on how your technical skills are to do most of the work yourself or pay to have it done. I bought mine sight unseen and while it is in relatively in good shape I have lots to do to get it to a point for me to be satisfied with it and enjoy it. I am by no means restoring it to show car status but I want it as original and the best I can make it. It takes time to complete so how much time are you willing to invest or wait for it. If color is a big deal a color change is easy if everything else is in great shape. If I was doing this again I would outline what are my top requirements in order of preference and start the search and when you find the one with most of your hit list go for it. Just my opinion as every one here has one. Good luck. Tony
Forgot to mention that there was no Cadillac Convertible in the years 1977 and 1978.
Bruce. >:D
Welcome to the club. Great choice for a hobby car but then I'm prejudiced. You've come to the right place and the issues you'll surely face can most often be well addressed by the members here.
Ken Wiebke
member no 23013
Quote from: warnercoffman on June 11, 2017, 10:17:30 PM
Any tips or suggestions where I need to be looking? Thanks!
Check eBay listings, Hemmings and all the usual online auto classified sites.
Strongly recommend sticking with top quality, low mileage originals in best condition you can find; examples needing anything but extremely minor restoration should be avoided.
Good luck in your search and welcome to the CLC forum.
Persian lime was a 1974 only color. It is a fairly bright Popsicle neon lime color. Looked great with white leather and lime accents. There was also a cranberry, magenta really and a Mandarin orange. Also available were plaid interiors.
Second the advice about getting the most car you can afford. I purchased a 1976 Eldorado convertible for $6K a year or so ago. $13K later, it's not anywhere near the car I could've bought for $20K. Buying cheap and restoring doesn't work at all.
Leonard Grayver
I will third the buy the very best condition car you can. One of my friends purchased a 1972 Eldorado convertible for 9k. thirty thousand dollars later it is mechanically great, now just need to paint it, reupholster it, rebuild top mechanism and then replace the top. So there it is about 60k invested to have a 20k car.
as a virgin buyer of a 73 eldorado
please listen to LeninLA and Soct Minnesinger,, i wish i had searched out this advice before I bought mine,, started at 6.8k, now up around 12 or so..
It depends on your tolerance for cost and time overruns. I have done a few restorations and always exceed budget and schedule. Find and buy the best you can afford and drive and Enjoy it.
Quote from: warnercoffman on June 11, 2017, 10:17:30 PM
I am interested in buying an Eldorado convertible. Ideally 1971-78, Ideally in Persian Lime Firemist w/white leather. Any tips or suggestions where I need to be looking? Thanks!
Join the Cadillac LaSalle Club so that you get the Self Starter publication which has an excellent Classified section. Also check the For Sale section of this message board. Hemmings is excellent; eBay and Craigs List could help but be sure to have a knowledgable member check out a car carefully if you can't see it yourself.
The advice offered above is right and important. Lime Green Firemist is very limiting, and I'd probably expand the color choices to at least a few others that you would find acceptable and interesting. Eldorado had lots of good choices in the 70s besides black, red, white, silver. The Firemist colors are often striking. If funds are unlimited, you could get a perfect white convertible and have it painted Lime Green Firemist (although the purists will not like this suggestion).
Good luck and please do keep us posted on your search progress.
John Emerson
1952 Cadillac 6219X in (boring but classy) Black
You can read about my experience, and others who chimed in here:
http://forums.cadillaclasalleclub.org/index.php?topic=144013.msg355055#msg355055
Not to beat a dead horse but in the interest of helping a new Member I would also recommend purchasing the very best example your wallet will allow. That being said however ALWAYS buy the car only if you are really turned on by it because you don't want to buy a car that you don't like the color combination or some other thing that you cannot live with. I own a 1972 Cadillac Eldorado Convertible and I Love the car and they are totally at ease in modern traffic too.
Quote from: Bill Young on June 19, 2017, 11:41:15 AM
I own a 1972 Cadillac Eldorado Convertible and I Love the car and they are totally at ease in modern traffic too.
Modern traffic, though, can be ill at ease with a '72.
"It's not going to eat me, is it?"
:P
I trust that Bill and "Doc" are adding some humor to the conversation; however, for the sake of "sage" advice, I, having owned a three 1980's Cadillacs, two of which were convertibles,the notion of keeping up with traffic with a frail and aging (superannuated) 4100 HT engine is truly a serious consideration. I absolutely LOVED these cars, but driving them on route 95 around metropolitan areas was a real chore. And having them fully loaded with people and trunk items met that on inclines, maintaining speeds in excess of 57 mph was not possible. So engine types are a serious consideration, if, in fact, your plans include some highway driving. As is the case with Bill and "Doc," I also owned a 1972 convertible, and that was, indeed, a highway car, with its 500 cid engine--- wow. Happy hunting James
The best advice I ever got was from a dear friend in this club. He said as many others "Buy the Best Car You Can Buy for the Most You Can Afford to Spend" , in other words a really low price deal is usually a real "MONEY PIT''. My other advise is to be patient. Sometimes buying in haste means the one you really want may come up for sale after you've already bought something else. Wait for just the right one to come along and then grab it.(Use other club members to check out a car if you can't do it yourself. ) Best of luck - Greg
To reiterate make sure you join the CLC.
Realize too as a byproduct of joining you can have access to local chapters' newsletters.
Those newsletters are a great place to look for cars for sale and read about real world tips others have gained from their experiences.
Ken Wiebke
Member number 23013
I grew up around the identical car you want but it was a 1974 coupe. A very 70s color and cool today.
However, and I dissent, but personally feel the 71-76 Eldorado convertibles are not very good cars. Beautiful but not very good IMO.
I have owned five of various years and they all were poor drivers COMPARED to a rear wheel drive DeVille convertible. Plus, the Eldos top mechanism and windows are always needing some attention. But I am biased and just not a front wheel drive kinda guy so my opinion is personal sans the windows and top issues.
If you have to have the Eldo look and the color, then you have to get a 74. But, if you just want a Caddy convertible, get a DeVille.
Actually, when comparing a Convertible to the Coupe, as an every-day driver, the Coupe will win hands down.
There is always going to be horrendous noise when driving a convertible, and listening to the radio, or tape, the only time it is actually worth listening to is when at the stop lights, or parked at the Supermarket when the other half is inside shopping.
I purchased a good radio, and accompanying quality speakers for my '72 Convertible, and am sorry that I did.
The Sound system in my '72 Eldorado Coupe, even though the car had serious rust around the back window, it was pleasant at any speed from parked to 100 MPH.
BUT, do I love my convertible, hell yes. The only thing I might do one day is to fabricate a removeable hard top for it, using parts of a spare convertible mechanism I have.
Bruce. >:D
Dear Bruce,
Try on an XLR --- an extraordinary deluxe roadster...with a hard top that's hard to ignore James
G'day James,
Wish I could. But, won't be able to until the end of June next year.
Bruce. >:D
Quote from: James Landi on June 20, 2017, 07:56:29 AM
I trust that Bill and "Doc" are adding some humor to the conversation;
On advice of counsel, I now insist that I have not allowed any of my land yachts to eat a Datsun, Fiat, or any other car so small it doesn't belong on the road during the applicable statute of limitations.
I *do* allow them to burble, roar, and otherwise scare the 4-bangers and make them uneasy . . .
:)
hawk, still looking for the older version of the club's grille decoration without the heretical "6"