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Offline Bill Young

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Re: 66 DeVille Convertible resto
« Reply #100 on: June 06, 2017, 10:08:07 AM »
Chuck , not trying to be a jerk , but in the interest of helping you get it right as you are pouring your heart and wallet into this car. In the photo you show looking at the back window of the new conv. top and rear roof area concerning the Wireon strip that goes outside across from left to right on the rear roof bow the Arrowhead stainless clips that fasten with the single phillips head screw are supposed to be positioned farther out and down the side of the bow. Not on top as the trim shop positioned them. Check photos of other 1965 thru 1970 Conv. tops and you will see the difference.
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Re: 66 DeVille Convertible resto
« Reply #101 on: June 06, 2017, 02:57:30 PM »
Ralph and Chuck,

Thanks for the explanation on colors.
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Re: 66 DeVille Convertible resto
« Reply #102 on: June 06, 2017, 05:12:36 PM »
Chuck , not trying to be a jerk , but in the interest of helping you get it right as you are pouring your heart and wallet into this car. In the photo you show looking at the back window of the new conv. top and rear roof area concerning the Wireon strip that goes outside across from left to right on the rear roof bow the Arrowhead stainless clips that fasten with the single phillips head screw are supposed to be positioned farther out and down the side of the bow. Not on top as the trim shop positioned them. Check photos of other 1965 thru 1970 Conv. tops and you will see the difference.

No problem Bill.  I did some research.  First, using Bing and Google, found about 1/2 the cars are around 4 inches or so longer on each side, and the others are the same as mine.  I checked with Electron, major supplier and where my top came from.  They have been recommending to authorized installers for decades to only put the wireon straps around 4.5 to 5 inches from the top seam.  Why...well they had so many problems back in the day with tops ripping in that area. (I'm surprised there was no recall, or maybe there is a service bulletin on it). 

Next, checked with the installer, who has been putting on tops for 30+ years.  He said that he can easily put another one on if I want, and extend down a little further.  However, he warned me that he has seen a ton of tops rip in that area (He said w/o me mentioning Electron call), and did not recommend doing it.

Good info and I didn't even notice.  For now I think I will leave as is, but appreciate any similar resto comments.

Thanks!  Chuck
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Re: 66 DeVille Convertible resto
« Reply #103 on: June 06, 2017, 05:17:48 PM »
Thanks for the pictures!
The only picture I found so far was one from an Ebay listing - it is from a 69 Convertible.
Now that you mentioned it - the picture of the 69 top also seems to have a stitching.

I also asked Electron about this front pad.  They knew what I was talking about but they do not sell.  They do sell the material, and stated that some installers will put these on the Cadillacs.  They could not confirm what was original back then, but they said somewhat popular with the Cadillacs. 

I also asked my installer.  He said he already has the material, but not typical to install.  However, he said he could install one if I wanted.   He mentioned maybe some else may sell already sewn, (Acme??)

Bottom line, if interested, make sure installer has the material in stock, if not add to the Electron order, and they should me able to make this extra piece.

Thanks, Chuck
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Re: 66 DeVille Convertible resto
« Reply #104 on: June 07, 2017, 09:56:27 PM »
Whew, rear end suspension finally done.  Big job.  Replaced all 8 control arm bushings.   New Eaton coil springs.  New Gabriel shocks.  Next is cleaning up some of the dust underneath (all painted underneath, just need to clean up the body shop dust/hose spray)  and installing brake and fuel lines.  Was too tired to take anymore pics, but glad how it came out :)
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Re: 66 DeVille Convertible resto
« Reply #105 on: June 07, 2017, 10:03:57 PM »
Chuck,

Looks mighty nice. You'll forget the tired every time you look at the job well done
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Re: 66 DeVille Convertible resto
« Reply #106 on: June 16, 2017, 06:31:39 PM »
Thank you Ralph. 

Also appreciate the lead on Industrial Metal Plating.  Got the grill pieces back today and they look great-all anodized.  (I did not send the sides as I have NOS ones).  Now I just need to reassemble :)

Thanks! Chuck

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Re: 66 DeVille Convertible resto
« Reply #107 on: June 20, 2017, 05:55:22 PM »
More good stuff :) 
Some wiring I forgot and sent to YNZ.  Not all in pairs as I have some NOS lights.  YNZ can do an entire 66 Caddy now (and 95% of a 65).

Forgot some chrome parts, so those on way. 
Chuck
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Re: 66 DeVille Convertible resto
« Reply #108 on: June 20, 2017, 06:03:22 PM »
Grill 90% reassembled.  Just need to bend more of tabs in back.  What a tedious job.  Took about 3 hours to put back together.  May use some tiny specks of Alum JB weld for stability.  I di not use a jig, or hammer.  Assembled on a thick carpeted floor.  Need to make sure you do not twist the spaces, as the anodizing will spider.  I have 4-5 extra pieces that I tested on first.  Spread with a screwdriver back and forth vs twisting to make space larger, but just enough so still tight. 
The anodizing is unlike chrome as you may have some tiny specs here and there and will not be 100% perfect, like the level of nice show chrome.  Tight to see unless I pointed the tiy specs out, but many are towards the inner back part of grill and you can't see anyway.  I compared to the NOS side pieces, and looks just as good.

Oh, last two pics below are the "before" pics.

Happy with the results!!
Chuck

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66 DeVille Convertible -Blue/White int (Profile pic of car in '81)
66 DeVille Convertible - Red/Red
66 Sedan DeVille hardtop
65 Eldorado (vert w/bucket seats)
65 Eldorado Bk/Bk
67 Chevy II Nova (AACA GN 2016)
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