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My 1957 Cadillac Eldorado Seville Restoration Project

Started by Seville1957, February 23, 2016, 10:11:03 PM

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Seville1957

It would be interesting to know how many 1957 Sevilles survived. I hear many were parted out in favor of Biarritz models.

57eldoking

#21
I've been cataloguing them for about 10 years now, collecting information on cars that come up for sale online and cars I've encountered at shows both in Europe and the U.S. I probably would have collected way more if I had been more active rather than simply collecting information from cars that I stumble upon.

Anyhow, today I have pictures and information on exactly 66 cars of each model. Not very scientific but it should give a rough idea, also need to keep in mind there were 300 more Sevilles built. In general Biarritz models are in better condition than the Sevilles. 
1957 Eldorado Biarritz #906
1957 Eldorado Biarritz #1020 http://bit.ly/1kTvFlM
1957 Eldorado Seville  #1777 http://bit.ly/1T3Uo1c
1995 Fleetwood Brougham  http://bit.ly/20YwJV4
2010 SRX Performance

1946 Chevy 1/2 ton pickup
1957 Buick Caballero Estate Wagon (x2)
1960 Chevy Apache 10 Stepside
1991 Jeep Grand Wagoneer (x2)
1992 Pontiac Trans Sport GT

57eldoking

#22
Quote from: Walter Youshock on February 27, 2016, 06:33:01 AM
Very interesting...  and you may be onto something with the number of cars over there...

I do think the Just Dashes grain is a touch more shallow than the original.  You may also want to consider matching material for the upper doors and rear seat.

You are correct Walter, the Just Dashes grain is shallower and finer than the original Elsacofab Buffalo Grain. However, you probably have to be a bit of a 57 Eldorado connoisseur to recognize that a Just Dashes dash isn't completely correct without having an original to compare it to. They do very nice work by all means!

The following pictures are of the red Just Dashes restored pad in our Biarritz and the original green pad in Dave Morris` low mileage Seville. At the bottom is a picture of a 58 Eldorado dash and side panels done by RD Autoline in Sweden. As you can see their grain is closer to the original Elascofab although it too is probably a hair too shallow.









1957 Eldorado Biarritz #906
1957 Eldorado Biarritz #1020 http://bit.ly/1kTvFlM
1957 Eldorado Seville  #1777 http://bit.ly/1T3Uo1c
1995 Fleetwood Brougham  http://bit.ly/20YwJV4
2010 SRX Performance

1946 Chevy 1/2 ton pickup
1957 Buick Caballero Estate Wagon (x2)
1960 Chevy Apache 10 Stepside
1991 Jeep Grand Wagoneer (x2)
1992 Pontiac Trans Sport GT

Walter Youshock

I know of 2 that rotted away in junkyards in Northeast PA.  One was white, black top and red/white leather.  The other was Starlight, repainted white, black top and black and silver paisley interior.

I have parts of both cars on mine.  One gave up its power trunk and the other the release button.  As I recall, both were single carb cars without air cleaners or valve covers...  they were probably gold...
CLC #11959 (Life)
1957 Coupe deVille
1991 Brougham

Seville1957

That's sad that those two beauties were left to rot. I know of one junkyard that has a 57 Seville mounted way up on the pole with its top cut off. Birds crap all over the car and it is riddled with bullet holes from people using it as target practice! You wont see this done with a Brougham or Biarritz. Seems the Seville hasn't received the respect they deserve. I was tickled pink when I heard about the 57 Seville that sold for $150k last January! Any of you gents drive ur cars on the road? Not so sure I will put mine on the road when im done. Too many idiot drivers in my neck of the woods.

57eldoking

#25
Driving them is what its all about! Nothing like getting out exploring the highways with these cars, it is an adventure like no other! We've put close to 30k miles on our Biarritz since it was done 13 years ago. That includes two coast to coast roadtrips on Route 66 and the Lincoln Highway from NYC to San Francisco. You only live once and when its all said and done the guy with the best experiences and memories wins. Even though I consider them rolling pieces of sculpture, they're just cars when it comes down to it. If its been restored once, it can always be restored again.  8)







1957 Eldorado Biarritz #906
1957 Eldorado Biarritz #1020 http://bit.ly/1kTvFlM
1957 Eldorado Seville  #1777 http://bit.ly/1T3Uo1c
1995 Fleetwood Brougham  http://bit.ly/20YwJV4
2010 SRX Performance

1946 Chevy 1/2 ton pickup
1957 Buick Caballero Estate Wagon (x2)
1960 Chevy Apache 10 Stepside
1991 Jeep Grand Wagoneer (x2)
1992 Pontiac Trans Sport GT

57 Eldo Seville

#26
Quote from: 57eldoking on February 27, 2016, 10:20:17 AM
You are correct Walter, the Just Dashes grain is shallower and finer than the original Elsacofab Buffalo Grain. However, you probably have to be a bit of a 57 Eldorado connoisseur to recognize that a Just Dashes dash isn't completely correct without having an original to compare it to. They do very nice work by all means!

The following pictures are of the red Just Dashes restored pad in our Biarritz and the original green pad in Dave Morris` low mileage Seville. At the bottom is a picture of a 58 Eldorado dash and side panels done by RD Autoline in Sweden. As you can see their grain is closer to the original Elascofab although it too is probably a hair too shallow.


I recognize that Versailles Green interior.
Dave Morris
CLC#28497
1957 Eldorado Seville
2020 CT5-V

57eldoking

Yes, I was drooling all over that car but it was a little out of my price range. It is one of the most original untouched Sevilles I have in my records.
1957 Eldorado Biarritz #906
1957 Eldorado Biarritz #1020 http://bit.ly/1kTvFlM
1957 Eldorado Seville  #1777 http://bit.ly/1T3Uo1c
1995 Fleetwood Brougham  http://bit.ly/20YwJV4
2010 SRX Performance

1946 Chevy 1/2 ton pickup
1957 Buick Caballero Estate Wagon (x2)
1960 Chevy Apache 10 Stepside
1991 Jeep Grand Wagoneer (x2)
1992 Pontiac Trans Sport GT

57 Eldo Seville

Quote from: 57eldoking on February 27, 2016, 03:44:35 PM
Yes, I was drooling all over that car but it was a little out of my price range. It is one of the most original untouched Sevilles I have in my records.

The interior is very original with the exception of new carpet and rear package shelf.  And the trunk is very original except there is no mounting provision for the jack and no holes where it should have been located.

The Olympic white paint looked to have been repainted forward of the windshield and original elsewhere.  Or so I thought.  Last week for the heck of it I did a search on the owner from 1970-1989.  And talked to him on the phone a day later.  Imagine my surprise when he mentioned the lime green (elysian green) color that it was painted when he owned it.  It was also that color when his good friend owned it from 1963-1970.  He knew that it should have been white and verified the mileage.  So my car was painted Elysian Green from around 1963 to sometime after 1989.

You learn something every day.
Dave Morris
CLC#28497
1957 Eldorado Seville
2020 CT5-V

Walter Youshock

Hoods and front fenders of this era SHOULD have a color variation from the body.  The bodies were painted at Fleetwood and the hoods and fenders at Clark.

A real original paint car will have a slight color difference, especially on a metallic.
CLC #11959 (Life)
1957 Coupe deVille
1991 Brougham

Cadillac Jack 82


Just received an email from the Swedes and they said they don't need the core.  They said this is something I install after they make it.  That would be great as it would save lots of time/money
Tim

CLC Member #30850

1959 Cadillac CDV "Shelley"
1964 Cadillac SDV "Rosalie"
1966 Oldsmobile Toronado "Sienna"

Past Cars

1937 LaSalle Cpe
1940 Chevrolet Cpe
1941 Ford 11Y
1954 Buick 48D
1955 Cadillac CDV
1955 Packard Clipper
1957 Cadillac Series 62
1962 VW Bug
1962 Dodge 880
1966 Mercury Montclair
1967 Buick Wildcat Convertible
1968 Chevy Chevelle SS
1968 Plymouth Barracuda
1977 Lincoln MKV

57eldoking

That's right, I forgot you can also install the pad yourself. When I talked to them they recommended I'd bring my metal board because I have AC which requires trimming and you only have one shot at making those cuts right. I only live a 4 hour drive away from them so I'll probably have them do it as they've done many of them.

1957 Eldorado Biarritz #906
1957 Eldorado Biarritz #1020 http://bit.ly/1kTvFlM
1957 Eldorado Seville  #1777 http://bit.ly/1T3Uo1c
1995 Fleetwood Brougham  http://bit.ly/20YwJV4
2010 SRX Performance

1946 Chevy 1/2 ton pickup
1957 Buick Caballero Estate Wagon (x2)
1960 Chevy Apache 10 Stepside
1991 Jeep Grand Wagoneer (x2)
1992 Pontiac Trans Sport GT

Cadillac Jack 82


I'm glad you posted pictures of Just Dashes grain.  They are several hundred dollars more than the Swedes are.  If the Swedes have the best grain then I'm going with them!  This makes me happy cause I can get this done later this year and finally install my Autronic Eye
Tim

CLC Member #30850

1959 Cadillac CDV "Shelley"
1964 Cadillac SDV "Rosalie"
1966 Oldsmobile Toronado "Sienna"

Past Cars

1937 LaSalle Cpe
1940 Chevrolet Cpe
1941 Ford 11Y
1954 Buick 48D
1955 Cadillac CDV
1955 Packard Clipper
1957 Cadillac Series 62
1962 VW Bug
1962 Dodge 880
1966 Mercury Montclair
1967 Buick Wildcat Convertible
1968 Chevy Chevelle SS
1968 Plymouth Barracuda
1977 Lincoln MKV

57eldoking

The pictures I posted only applies for the Eldorados though. Your Series 62 didn't have the Buffalo grain. Here's a picture of a Series 62 pad redone by the Swedes. Perhaps someone else can post a picture of a Series 62 pad done by Just Dashes. In any event the Swedes do impeccable work so I'm sure you'll be happy, especially since it's cheaper too.

1957 Eldorado Biarritz #906
1957 Eldorado Biarritz #1020 http://bit.ly/1kTvFlM
1957 Eldorado Seville  #1777 http://bit.ly/1T3Uo1c
1995 Fleetwood Brougham  http://bit.ly/20YwJV4
2010 SRX Performance

1946 Chevy 1/2 ton pickup
1957 Buick Caballero Estate Wagon (x2)
1960 Chevy Apache 10 Stepside
1991 Jeep Grand Wagoneer (x2)
1992 Pontiac Trans Sport GT

Seville1957

Beautiful dash, does anyone have Swedes contact info? Also, do you guys have any recommendation for a shop to chrome the rear bumpers and rear license plate holder?

57eldoking

1957 Eldorado Biarritz #906
1957 Eldorado Biarritz #1020 http://bit.ly/1kTvFlM
1957 Eldorado Seville  #1777 http://bit.ly/1T3Uo1c
1995 Fleetwood Brougham  http://bit.ly/20YwJV4
2010 SRX Performance

1946 Chevy 1/2 ton pickup
1957 Buick Caballero Estate Wagon (x2)
1960 Chevy Apache 10 Stepside
1991 Jeep Grand Wagoneer (x2)
1992 Pontiac Trans Sport GT

Cadillac Jack 82


I was told that Limbrandi's had a good quality chrome.  They quoted me 1500 for my rear bumper:

http://www.carchrome.com/beta/librandi/about.htm
Tim

CLC Member #30850

1959 Cadillac CDV "Shelley"
1964 Cadillac SDV "Rosalie"
1966 Oldsmobile Toronado "Sienna"

Past Cars

1937 LaSalle Cpe
1940 Chevrolet Cpe
1941 Ford 11Y
1954 Buick 48D
1955 Cadillac CDV
1955 Packard Clipper
1957 Cadillac Series 62
1962 VW Bug
1962 Dodge 880
1966 Mercury Montclair
1967 Buick Wildcat Convertible
1968 Chevy Chevelle SS
1968 Plymouth Barracuda
1977 Lincoln MKV

Paul Tesone

I'm a little late in responding , but here's my Just Dashes black dash done a few years ago and an original red dash . As others have stated , the original appears a little deeper grained than the Just Dashes repro . Quality of the Just Dashes product is excellent .  .. Paul Tesone CLC #6876

Seville1957

Nice, I think Im going with RD Line for my dash. Recieved estimates for plating the rear bumpers, $6,000!

57eldoking

Another option you may want to consider is buying a new recast pair of rear bumpers. These are made in a modern aluminum alloy which is more stable and should be easier to chrome. I have yet to have a plating job on a set of recast bumpers priced out though. However what makes plating so expensive is the labor that goes into prepping the pieces. I would imagine new bumpers would require far less prep work.

1957 Eldorado Biarritz #906
1957 Eldorado Biarritz #1020 http://bit.ly/1kTvFlM
1957 Eldorado Seville  #1777 http://bit.ly/1T3Uo1c
1995 Fleetwood Brougham  http://bit.ly/20YwJV4
2010 SRX Performance

1946 Chevy 1/2 ton pickup
1957 Buick Caballero Estate Wagon (x2)
1960 Chevy Apache 10 Stepside
1991 Jeep Grand Wagoneer (x2)
1992 Pontiac Trans Sport GT