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Offline paulkersey

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Any 1960 rubber brake line sets not made in china ?
« on: May 13, 2011, 12:37:13 AM »
 I Recieved my Raybestos PG plus lines that are made by Sunsong for Brake Part Inc,. in China. Not happy. Going back. I am sure Wagner and Bendix are similar. I missed the notice.
 They are SAE J1401 1/8 HL so, I guess thats good.
I saw some nice Goodyear Bulk Hose GY 5055 super low expansion 1/8. wondering if any has found any 13" hoses or sets or anything with a nice high quality stock like this. I have been searching in vain. Looks like custom only.
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Re: Any 1960 rubber brake line sets not made in china ?
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2011, 01:58:42 AM »
These days, they will all be made in China, and packed in USA.

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Re: Any 1960 rubber brake line sets not made in china ?
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2011, 12:09:25 PM »
Brake Parts Inc, used to be headquartered in Mc Henry, IL, a suburb of Chgo. They also had a mfg plant there. It was RAYBESTOS. Based on the lack of quality of their late model parts, sold by RockAuto, & Carquest, all Chinese, I would be very careful. Recent customer is coming back with their squealing CERAMIC disc pads.
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Re: Any 1960 rubber brake line sets not made in china ?
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2011, 03:12:39 AM »
It looks like Carlyle owned Veyance (Goodyear) is the last US hose manufacturer. Due in part to government contracts.
They do not however offer finished aftermarket lines.
 
I am checking with BrakeQuip for their parts stock origin

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Re: Any 1960 rubber brake line sets not made in china ?
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2011, 06:18:57 AM »
I would be very skeptical about "Made In China" automotive parts, especially vital ones like brake and fuel lines, etc. I've had my share of bad quality parts and I always attempt to make sure I get them made in "GOOD OLE USA".  Companies that make most of their parts in the USA are "Standard" and "Moog" and they are of good quality too; a little more cost but well worth it for reliability. BUY AMERICAN!   EAM
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Re: Any 1960 rubber brake line sets not made in china ?
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2011, 12:40:39 AM »
I wish those companies made brake parts. Every year that goes by it gets harder to find US stuff depending on what system one is working on.
More niche and custom/low volume parts suppliers to put a job together therefore more $$ and time.
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Re: Any 1960 rubber brake line sets not made in china ?
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2011, 07:53:14 AM »
Give these folks a try:

Brake Materials & Parts Inc
800 Sherman Boulevard,
Fort Wayne, IN 46808
(260) 426-3331
WHOLESALE, RETAIL, Specializing In Antique-Vintage-Classic-Obsolete-Unique & Hard-to-Find, BONDING-RIVETING-REBUILDING, Drum-Rotor Machining, custom made brake hoses.

The following from the AROC (Alfa Romeo Owners Club) website http://www.aroc-usa.org/ :

"BrakePartsSTOP@aol.com
Scott & Margaret Bethke are AROC members and sports car owners. Third generaion family-owned business specializing in brakes since 1936. They are also the brake rebuilder for top restorers in the US, on many concours winners with the highest quality parts available. that is highly recognized in their field, they are the brake parts experts. Specializes in custom rebuilding and relining. They will also arc shoes to fit the drums when providing both relining and machining services.  Rebuilding services are based on your individual needs including but not limited to brake bands, brake shoes, calipers, master cylinders, wheel cylinders, custom made brake hoses, and power brake units."

They made some custom brake hoses for me and I'm well satisfied.  They pressure test each hose assembly they make.
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Re: Any 1960 rubber brake line sets not made in china ?
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2011, 03:35:18 AM »
Thanks all,
I will try them. Since my original post, I have made a part time job out of finding American replacement hoses and fittings for my 60.  I challenge anyone to find some.

 It appears Goodyear is the last U.S. Bulk Hose manufacturer but I can't find someone who assembles with this. The fittings world looks grim also.
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Re: Any 1960 rubber brake line sets not made in china ?
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2011, 05:29:33 PM »
Thanks Classic,
 My 2 week search for Goodyear hoses are over. Now on to the fittings.
 I am saddened by the amount of off-shoring in the recent past creating a false boom of availability in the replacement parts business.
 I am sure this covers every system and stamping on our cars. One could easily be driving a Chinese re-creation of a classic these days.
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Re: Any 1960 rubber brake line sets not made in china ?
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2011, 08:17:44 PM »
Brake Parts

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Brake Hoses, braided or rubber, we manufacture hoses

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Re: Any 1960 rubber brake line sets not made in china ?
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2011, 08:40:39 PM »
I am saddened by the amount of off-shoring in the recent past creating a false boom of availability in the replacement parts business. 
The only reason "Off-shoring" is done is to maximise the profits of the person selling the parts in their home country.

How easy we disregard the low pay and conditions that these workers suffer, so we can enjoy cheap prices.

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Re: Any 1960 rubber brake line sets not made in china ?
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2011, 07:23:10 AM »
I would rather pay more and get better quality on something like a brake part.

Brian
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Re: Any 1960 rubber brake line sets not made in china ?
« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2011, 08:24:44 AM »
But, the suppliers don't give us an option.   They want to make more profit.

Bruce. >:D
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Re: Any 1960 rubber brake line sets not made in china ?
« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2011, 11:34:46 AM »
China can produce quality high-tech devices too, see where most of our cell phones or TV sets come from.
All depends on specification standards and quality controls asked by people having things made in China. But Bruce is right, this is a battle of quality vs. cost.



By the way, there never was such thing as US-produced brake hose material : even back then in the 1950s, it has always been "produced" in Malaysia / Thailand / Vietnam / Brazil, as there are no rubber trees in the US - or Europe :P
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Re: Any 1960 rubber brake line sets not made in china ?
« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2011, 06:28:25 PM »
Paul, try Bryan Hose and Gasket, 1800 Quality Park Lane, Bryan, TX  979 775 2828.  Ask for Larry.  They manufacture DOT stamped brake hoses.
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Re: Any 1960 rubber brake line sets not made in china ?
« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2011, 08:05:28 PM »
Here's a shop I think makes their brake, transmission, fuel, choke, vacuum and other lines including stainless steel braided hoses, etc right here in the USA. Their tel # is 1-800-882-3711 or to order on line it's www.classictube.com. I would call them before I'd order to make sure they're made in the USA.  At least it's a shot to begin buying American which I always try to do.  Call them for their catalog and see what's available.  EAM
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Re: Any 1960 rubber brake line sets not made in china ?
« Reply #16 on: June 19, 2011, 01:20:01 AM »
I can't remember if I called them or not. I know Inline tube, a local Michigan compant told me " I don't know where our hose comes from" so that was the end of that.

I received my brake hoses and fittings-all US made (GY hose) from Brake Materials and Parts Inc. out of Ft Wayne, Ind.
 I haven't applied them yet and do not know the rest of their product line but they are great to deal with. I sent them my old ones to match up.
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Re: Any 1960 rubber brake line sets not made in china ?
« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2011, 04:23:33 PM »
I won't talk politics on a car message board, but I will say this...  With so many people out of work, how could our government possibly allow this?  Have they sold us out to this level?  The article is sickening.  Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

Brian
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