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Offline danjarrett1

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74 Eldorado parade boot question:
« on: January 11, 2018, 09:56:49 PM »
Are there any other options for a parade boot other than the hard shell boot? When I bought my 74, there was no boot with the car, I looked at the hard shell fiberglass boot offered by OPGI, $600 unpainted with install kit. I actually prefer the vinyl soft boot but have not seen an application for a 1974.....any ideas?
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Offline The Tassie Devil(le)

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Re: 74 Eldorado parade boot question:
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2018, 10:41:57 PM »
Not sure about '74, but there is no reason why one cannot fit a soft boot in place.

If your car has the fittings for the soft boot, the press studs that is, I don't think it is possible to safely fit a Hard Boot without removing them.   The same translates to the Hard Boot.   To fit a Soft Boot, you have to install the press stud receivers, but you don't have to remove the two attacking brackets for the Hard Boot.

My book shows the Convertible Top Boot as an option costing $40.00, so if that was for the Hard Boot, then the Soft Boot would have been standard.

From what I can gather, the Soft Boot was the only cover for 1971, and in 1972, the Hard Boot became a no cost option.

Bruce. >:D
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Re: 74 Eldorado parade boot question:
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2018, 10:50:40 PM »
There are currently no provision for attach studs for a soft boot. Presumably this car left Detroit with a hard shell boot, there are latching receiver mounts in the sidewall of each rear passenger side. The cover was probably cracked and discarded at some time
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Re: 74 Eldorado parade boot question:
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2018, 11:07:34 PM »
In that case, you need to get a replacement Hard Boot, especially with the original attached Deuz fasteners.

The Hard Boots can be a bit tricky to install, but definitely a lot easier than the soft cousins.  A lot of pulling and stretching to get it to fit.

BUT, the Hard Boots in themselves are a pain to store in the trunk as they take up so much room.

I wish GM had designed them to take up less room.

Bruce. >:D

PS.   The other thing to be wary of is when installing the Hard Boots, take care not to destroy the Fibre Optic mount that is attached to the back of the seat back.
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Re: 74 Eldorado parade boot question:
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2018, 11:12:15 PM »
The little light in the rear is fiber optic? I had no idea fiber optics were even available in 1974
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Re: 74 Eldorado parade boot question:
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2018, 02:39:24 AM »
Yes, Fibre Optics to show the driver that the rear lights are working.

The same as those at the front on the Fenders.

Cadillac was ahead of its' day.

Not sure when it started, but my '72 has them, front and back.

Bruce. >:D
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Re: 74 Eldorado parade boot question:
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2018, 06:43:44 AM »
STOP!

Do not drill your belt molding and put studs on it.

You can contact Hydro Electric in Florida or Convertible Top Specialists in Florida for a repro soft boot.

The boots have nylon tabs that slip under the belt molding from the painted surface of the car and your car should have some Velcro running on the top of the back seat upright. You should also have two or three snap receivers on the wood grain metal parts of your rear quarter upholstered side pieces.

Don't mutillate the molding with ugly snaps.

Brian
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Re: 74 Eldorado parade boot question:
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2018, 07:37:01 AM »
Bruce, you’re right! Top specialists in Florida makes soft boot, just visited their website. I prefer a soft to hard food. The hard boot just doesn’t look right to me, the soft boot this ultimate signature of a  convertible. 
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Re: 74 Eldorado parade boot question:
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2018, 05:10:33 PM »
G'day Brian,

I hope it didn't come out that I was advocating installing studs in the belt moulding.   That would never do.

Only cheap convertibles have those hideous things ruining chrome and stainless parts.

Bruce. >:D
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Re: 74 Eldorado parade boot question:
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2018, 09:26:39 PM »
STOP!

Do not drill your belt molding and put studs on it.

You can contact Hydro Electric in Florida or Convertible Top Specialists in Florida for a repro soft boot.

The boots have nylon tabs that slip under the belt molding from the painted surface of the car and your car should have some Velcro running on the top of the back seat upright. You should also have two or three snap receivers on the wood grain metal parts of your rear quarter upholstered side pieces.



Don't mutillate the molding with ugly snaps.

Brian

Ditto. Good advice.

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Re: 74 Eldorado parade boot question:
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2018, 06:15:12 AM »
I think the 68 Corvette had fiber optic light monitors in the center console.  I'm thinking that was the first.

Brian
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1960 Eldorado Seville
1970 DeVille Convertible
1970 Eldorado
1976 Eldorado Convertible
1980 Eldorado Hess & Eisenhardt Convertible
1981 Eldorado Hess & Eisenhardt Convertible
1985 Eldorado ASC Biarritz Convertible
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Re: 74 Eldorado parade boot question:
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2018, 03:52:30 PM »
Ah ha.   Yes, I converted a '68 'Vette to RHD, and thankfully, didn't have to modify these.

Bruce. >:D
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Re: 74 Eldorado parade boot question:
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2018, 08:09:53 PM »
G'day Brian,

I hope it didn't come out that I was advocating installing studs in the belt moulding.   That would never do.

Only cheap convertibles have those hideous things ruining chrome and stainless parts.

Bruce. >:D

I can't verify it.  I think there were times when Cadillac or their dealers offered simulated convertible tops, and did everything possible to make them look like a real life convertible, including adding the snaps around the rear belt line.  They had a fiberglass piece that fit over the roof before the top was applied, to give the appearance of convertible bows.  The phaetons had that piece on the roof across the rear, on top of the rear window,

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Re: 74 Eldorado parade boot question:
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2018, 11:14:26 PM »
Eric,

These were factory offerings.  They were beautiful cars in my opinion.

Dealers used to load up Eldo's and Sevilles in the 80's with a RR Grill and the Roadster tops which looked like converts.

Good times!

Brian 
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1960 62 Series Convertible with factory Tri Power
1960 Eldorado Seville
1970 DeVille Convertible
1970 Eldorado
1976 Eldorado Convertible
1980 Eldorado Hess & Eisenhardt Convertible
1981 Eldorado Hess & Eisenhardt Convertible
1985 Eldorado ASC Biarritz Convertible
2007 DTS
2012 CTS Coupe
2017 CT5

 

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