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Carl 61 Fleetwood Phyllis

Started by Clewisiii, January 20, 2020, 09:10:55 AM

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David King (kz78hy)

#500
Carl,

I recommend Warren Gear & Axle.  https://warrengearmi.com

They put together my 55 Eldorado rear end that was completely taken apart by the previous owner.

David
David King
CLC 22014  (life)
1958 Eldorado Brougham 615
1959 Eldorado Brougham 56- sold
1960 Eldorado Brougham 83- sold
1998 Deville d'Elegance
1955 Eldorado #277
1964 Studebaker Commander
2012 Volt
CLCMRC benefactor 197

Director and Founder, Eldorado Brougham Chapter
Past President, Motor City Region

Rare Parts brand suspension parts Retailer via Keep'em Running Automotive

The Tassie Devil(le)

You cannot replace a pinion on its' own.   The Crown Wheel and Pinion come as a matched set.

Bruce. >:D
'72 Eldorado Convertible (LHD)
'70 Ranchero Squire (RHD)
'74 Chris Craft Gull Wing (SH)
'02 VX Series II Holden Commodore SS Sedan
(Past President Modified Chapter)

Past Cars of significance - to me
1935 Ford 3 Window Coupe
1936 Ford 5 Window Coupe
1937 Chevrolet Sports Coupe
1955 Chevrolet Convertible
1959 Ford Fairlane Ranch Wagon
1960 Cadillac CDV
1972 Cadillac Eldorado Coupe

Clewisiii

Radiator just dropped off for recoring. He was almost apologetic that it would take 5 days.  That is nothing. 

Waldron's says it is a 8-10 week lead time for an exhaust.  I would like to get one before I try to fire up the engine.  I may buy something for temporary use.

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"My interest is in the future, because I am going to spend the rest of my life there."  Charles Kettering

Clewisiii

I have a question about battery cables. 

The listing said not original spring connectors.

I have not checked my Fleetwood but this has the same connectors as my parts car. 

Maybe my parts car wires had been replaced.  Or maybe the spring connectors stopped earlier then they have listed.   

What are your thoughts or opinions. 

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"My interest is in the future, because I am going to spend the rest of my life there."  Charles Kettering

Clewisiii

Dug out my original.  No big difference to me. 

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"My interest is in the future, because I am going to spend the rest of my life there."  Charles Kettering

David Greenburg

The spring clamps are correct, but they are also annoying (get loose and sloppy). I'd go with the bolt- ons.  And maybe go oversize while you're at it.
David Greenburg
'60 Eldorado Seville
'61 Fleetwood Sixty Special

Clewisiii

I have to say I am getting very excited about being able to start my engine soon.  I feel like that will also be a big psychological hurdle. 

I keep saying the the next step was just to expensive to get past.  But after this I have a series of sub $1000 hurdles.  The next big expense is paint and interior chrome.  But I can work on the remaining chrome over time. 

I am happy. 
"My interest is in the future, because I am going to spend the rest of my life there."  Charles Kettering

James Landi

"I am happy."   As are many of us who are following your extensive and lengthy restoration Carl.  Impressive accomplishments,expertise, and determination.  Happy day,  James

Clewisiii

I got the phone call.  My frame is ready.  Last week she said it was scheduled to start on the 25th now it is done on the 22nd.  I think I am taking a short day at work on Wednesday to go and pick it up.

The radiator should also be done by then
"My interest is in the future, because I am going to spend the rest of my life there."  Charles Kettering

Clewisiii

I don't know how to interpret the difference between the bushings I bought 5 years ago. And the new set I have to reassemble my frame. 

I like the way the rubber is molded in the new ones.  But the previous drawn metal casing seems smoother.  But I think it may also be weaker.  The upper flange was bending quite a bit when I was pressing the old ones in.  IMG_20230522_204135467.jpg
"My interest is in the future, because I am going to spend the rest of my life there."  Charles Kettering

Clewisiii

Can someone tell me about these.  Because I do not remember taking them off.  Screenshot_20230522-214458.png
"My interest is in the future, because I am going to spend the rest of my life there."  Charles Kettering

The Tassie Devil(le)

Could they be the locking tabs for locking the rear Universal Joint to the Diff Pinion Flange?

Bruce. >:D
'72 Eldorado Convertible (LHD)
'70 Ranchero Squire (RHD)
'74 Chris Craft Gull Wing (SH)
'02 VX Series II Holden Commodore SS Sedan
(Past President Modified Chapter)

Past Cars of significance - to me
1935 Ford 3 Window Coupe
1936 Ford 5 Window Coupe
1937 Chevrolet Sports Coupe
1955 Chevrolet Convertible
1959 Ford Fairlane Ranch Wagon
1960 Cadillac CDV
1972 Cadillac Eldorado Coupe

Roger Zimmermann

Quote from: The Tassie Devil(le) on May 23, 2023, 02:05:05 AMCould they be the locking tabs for locking the rear Universal Joint to the Diff Pinion Flange?

Exactly. Were used from 1957 to 1962 and 63-65 on 75, CC.
1956 Sedan de Ville (sold)
1956 Eldorado Biarritz
1957 Eldorado Brougham (sold)
1972 Coupe de Ville
2011 DTS
CLCMRC benefactor #101

Clewisiii

I picked up my frame and brackets from the powdercoater.  Hard to get that off my trailer alone without scraping it.  I will unpackaged all the little bits and work on getting it back together this weekend. 

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"My interest is in the future, because I am going to spend the rest of my life there."  Charles Kettering

Clewisiii

Another pic in the garage . 

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"My interest is in the future, because I am going to spend the rest of my life there."  Charles Kettering

Clewisiii

#515
I picked up my freshly recored radiator today.  I had told them don't worry about painting it.  I will do that myself.  I am glad I did. 

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First thing I noticed that the new copper side plats were solid and smooth.  I asked him about the holes for the radiator overflow tube clips.  He said in 30 years he has never had anyone ask about that.   He said I can cut holes in the plate as long as I do not go deep.   

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I loaded it in my trunk and was a mile down the road until I noticed something in my memory.  The overflow tube coming out of the fill neck was pointed in the wrong direction.  It was pointing forward.  I pulled into a strip club parking lot and checked my trunk.  Yup it is backwards.  I turned around and went back.  He looked at it and I showed him a picture.  He called a guy up and asked him to take it off and resolder.  I showed him the picture were it is to the back angled to the outside edge.  I talked to the guy at the counter for a while and he came back with the tank.  Tube angled to the back middle of the tank.  Well third time is the charm.  He went back and fixed it. 
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I know things happen. And no one is perfect. And how were they supposed to know what angle the tube needed on a 61 Cadillac.  But that only explains the first mistake. Not the second.  I am going to go measure everything to make sure the overall dimensions are correct.  It would suck to find out the new core is 1/2 inch taller or shorter and will not fit in place. 
"My interest is in the future, because I am going to spend the rest of my life there."  Charles Kettering

Clewisiii

Installing these upper A Arm bumpers was much easier this time.  No fighting at all. They pulled right through IMG_20230525_185135488.jpg
"My interest is in the future, because I am going to spend the rest of my life there."  Charles Kettering

Clewisiii

I was worried about buying these because they were from a generic listing that did not say application or size.  I almost feel I lucked out on a perfect fit
"My interest is in the future, because I am going to spend the rest of my life there."  Charles Kettering

The Tassie Devil(le)

When I have to fit tight rubber parts, a dab of Rubber Grease works well.

Bruce. >:D

PS.   Don't forget that having previously done the same task, the second time around is usually easier, as you know just how much the parts will take to get them in.
'72 Eldorado Convertible (LHD)
'70 Ranchero Squire (RHD)
'74 Chris Craft Gull Wing (SH)
'02 VX Series II Holden Commodore SS Sedan
(Past President Modified Chapter)

Past Cars of significance - to me
1935 Ford 3 Window Coupe
1936 Ford 5 Window Coupe
1937 Chevrolet Sports Coupe
1955 Chevrolet Convertible
1959 Ford Fairlane Ranch Wagon
1960 Cadillac CDV
1972 Cadillac Eldorado Coupe

Clewisiii

I got the ignition wire harness from Electric Limited today.  Just getting the stuff needed for starting the car for now.
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But I have some problems with the Bushing/Ball joint kit I bought from A Resto Parts.  They are just slightly off.   
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The new pins are shorter then the old set from Rare Parts.
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The new A Arm bushings are to small. They can slide in by hand.  So I will need to order a new pair of these bushings.  I don't know about the lower yet. 

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"My interest is in the future, because I am going to spend the rest of my life there."  Charles Kettering