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1959 Cadillac (OEM & new old stock in the box) Oil Filter Canister "Type S-6"

Started by Ian Veneziano, January 08, 2019, 10:38:23 PM

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Ian Veneziano

hi everyone!

Putting for sale this Oil Filter Canister "Type S-6" complete with bracket (with the oil filter cartridge)

The shade of blue is the exact used in the 1959 Cadillac engine

Fits 390 Cadillac engine (only in 1959) and other 1950s Cadillac engines (I'm not sure but also 346, 331 & 365) and many other GM cars from the 1940s/1950s/1960s (also other brands used these exact oil canister spec.)

This an OEM General Motors AC part new old stock in MINT conditions (not restored!) and still in its original cardboard box - made probably on late 50s/early 60s

Factory part number # 5575202

Hard to find in this condition!

Asking U$ 600 + shipping

Any questions, please leave here or send me a message direct to ian.venezianoemail addresses not permitted

Thanks
  :)
Ian Veneziano

Former:

1950 60/S Fleetwood
1957 Series-62 Sedan
1957 60/S Fleetwood
1959 60/S Fleetwood
1959 Eldorado Seville
1962 60/S Fleetwood
1973 Eldorado

Eric DeVirgilis CLC# 8621

Very nice and a great documentation that the lid is supposed to be blue and not black is often done in restorations.
A Cadillac Motorcar is a Possession for which there is no Acceptable Substitute

gkhashem

I agree nice documentation but some "experts" would still want to dispute your claim.  :)
1959 Oldsmobile 98 Holiday Sports Sedan
1960 Cadillac Coupe Deville (CLC Sr #72)
1964 Oldsmobile 98 Town Sedan (OCA 1st)
1970 GMC C1500
1977 Oldsmobile 98 Regency Coupe
1978 Cadillac Coupe Deville (CLC Sr Crown #959)*
1992 Oldsmobile 98 (OCA 1st)
1996 Oldsmobile 98
*CLC Past President's Preservation

Past Cadillacs
1959 Coupe Deville
1966 Coupe Deville (Sr #861)*
1991 Eldorado Biarritz (Sr #838)

Eric DeVirgilis CLC# 8621

A Cadillac Motorcar is a Possession for which there is no Acceptable Substitute

59-in-pieces

Eric,
I'm not one of those ".......", but I offer the following.

A photo of the engine compartment of the “Gagnon Murder Car” â€" a 1959 Cadillac Seville (1 of 927) â€" VIN 59H020820 â€" with 2,240 documented miles shows the lid of the oil filter canister to be ------ wait for it -------BLUE, to match the engine blue.

I have not found or seen a 59 - any model - with less documented original miles, so I have adopted the blue lid for my cars.

Another couple of issues that should be noted:
1. is the fact that the bolt head above the canister lid is NOT painted blue, as is often found on restored 59's, and 2. the 2 white printings on the lid appear to have been painted on - not a water transfer decal.
However, we can buy reproductions of the decals in sticker form, which appear to be accurate.

Have fun,
Steve B.
S. Butcher

Eric DeVirgilis CLC# 8621

#5
I have seen a few with badly deteriorated - but original - oil canister lid paint, and after decades of wear, engine vapors and general age, they do tend to look black so I can see the reason so many get restored that way. But if you look very closely in direct sunlight, the blue should be visible. If any doubts remain, use little bit of lacquer thinner on a white towel and the blue paint on the towel is unmistakable.

Yes I'm definitely familiar with the Gagnon "Death Car". Watched it cross the block in Scottsdale 2007 for $150K which I thought was next to nothing for such a documented & preserved original '59 Seville given its history. I was a bit disappointed to later find out the engine had been repainted - but all parts were done exactly as found.  I still would have left it alone. How bad could it have been?  ???
A Cadillac Motorcar is a Possession for which there is no Acceptable Substitute

gkhashem

Here is a photo of my ugly engine compartment. It has since been cleaned and shined up some. Not as bad as the photo depicts it but this was a 39,945 mile car.


The first photo is the sellers, it had an AC fuel pump, original spark plug wires, I think also original belts since GM and a part number were embossed on the belts. I kept them but seem to have misplaced the spark plug wire!. I rebuilt the fuel pump since and have not put it back on the car. But the bottom of the fuel pump was also Cadillac blue. So the entire fuel pump was blue too I think, it just wore off from age. The oil filter canister is all blue and the nut appears non painted, but I will closely look at it for paint sometime.

The second photo is after I cleaned up some.

Also I grew up in Concord NH, the Gagnon car was garaged for many years in the NH State Highway Department on Stickney Ave in Concord. (garage was retired from being the department headquarters about 10 years ago I think) This was about 4 miles from where I lived! It was in the garage with garage equipment with a tarp over it!

I also wish I could figure out what was on the yellow silk screen in front of the radiator and the generator.

This part looks fantastic though and correct.
1959 Oldsmobile 98 Holiday Sports Sedan
1960 Cadillac Coupe Deville (CLC Sr #72)
1964 Oldsmobile 98 Town Sedan (OCA 1st)
1970 GMC C1500
1977 Oldsmobile 98 Regency Coupe
1978 Cadillac Coupe Deville (CLC Sr Crown #959)*
1992 Oldsmobile 98 (OCA 1st)
1996 Oldsmobile 98
*CLC Past President's Preservation

Past Cadillacs
1959 Coupe Deville
1966 Coupe Deville (Sr #861)*
1991 Eldorado Biarritz (Sr #838)

Eric DeVirgilis CLC# 8621

George...I believe the car was finally released back to the Gagnon heirs in 1974, after which it sat in a company warehouse until it was sold in 1981. If we only knew...
A Cadillac Motorcar is a Possession for which there is no Acceptable Substitute

gkhashem

Not sure of the release date but the car was kept for many years for evidence for the murder. I once talked to a state employee who remembered the car.

It was actually garaged with highway road equipment.
1959 Oldsmobile 98 Holiday Sports Sedan
1960 Cadillac Coupe Deville (CLC Sr #72)
1964 Oldsmobile 98 Town Sedan (OCA 1st)
1970 GMC C1500
1977 Oldsmobile 98 Regency Coupe
1978 Cadillac Coupe Deville (CLC Sr Crown #959)*
1992 Oldsmobile 98 (OCA 1st)
1996 Oldsmobile 98
*CLC Past President's Preservation

Past Cadillacs
1959 Coupe Deville
1966 Coupe Deville (Sr #861)*
1991 Eldorado Biarritz (Sr #838)

chrisntam

A couple of cans of Krylon would make that engine compartment look spiffy!

;)
1970 Deville Convertible 
Dallas, Texas

59-in-pieces

George,
Is your car painted Kensington Green Metallic.
Your avatar is way too small to appreciate the color.
Just for fun, would post a couple pictures of the outsides.
Kensington is my most favorite color.
It really shows off the body lines - IMHO.

Have fun,
Steve B.
S. Butcher

gkhashem

Steve

Here you go. Although I have posted several pictures in the past. I agree this color works on the car and has to be seen in person to really appreciate it.

But the color has to be vibrant and not all beat up.

As far a as painting it, why would you ever want to cover up a car that restored cars would need to do an authentic restoration? But I see you may be kidding me. But believe me many people would be serious.

That was my point on the "experts" above, no arguing with the real thing unless you are really in denial.

Also I have been told by even honest restorers less is more , do not touch it in other words. If I did it would actually lose value to a serious collector. You should only repaint cars you are restoring not original cars that are a #2- or better.

I am a perfectionist in many things but I have come to really be appreciative of an orginal car with minor age and use imperfections. This is
more enjoyable to me than a restored "perfect" car would ever be. I like to drive my cars but do worry about others on the road hitting me.
1959 Oldsmobile 98 Holiday Sports Sedan
1960 Cadillac Coupe Deville (CLC Sr #72)
1964 Oldsmobile 98 Town Sedan (OCA 1st)
1970 GMC C1500
1977 Oldsmobile 98 Regency Coupe
1978 Cadillac Coupe Deville (CLC Sr Crown #959)*
1992 Oldsmobile 98 (OCA 1st)
1996 Oldsmobile 98
*CLC Past President's Preservation

Past Cadillacs
1959 Coupe Deville
1966 Coupe Deville (Sr #861)*
1991 Eldorado Biarritz (Sr #838)

Ian Veneziano

Ian Veneziano

Former:

1950 60/S Fleetwood
1957 Series-62 Sedan
1957 60/S Fleetwood
1959 60/S Fleetwood
1959 Eldorado Seville
1962 60/S Fleetwood
1973 Eldorado

Ian Veneziano

Listed on ebay just now in https://www.ebay.com/itm/255896562677 for U$ 649 + shipping

Anyway, I keep my U$ 600 price for CLC forum members  ;)
Ian Veneziano

Former:

1950 60/S Fleetwood
1957 Series-62 Sedan
1957 60/S Fleetwood
1959 60/S Fleetwood
1959 Eldorado Seville
1962 60/S Fleetwood
1973 Eldorado