Just a bit of trivia for those that think the constant calls for greater and greater mileage will stop with the predominance of EV's, there are some well placed discussions going on regarding Government mandated Miles per Watt/Hour standards according to the SAE newsletters.
It goes on and on. Enjoy the ride
Greg Surfas
Once gasoline vehicles are successfully relegated to a "fine art" and the bulk of the U.S. fleet is electrically powered with no other viable alternative for the average person, the regulations will begin. A "crisis" will probably spur (re)action, just like it always does.
If it moves, tax it, if it stops moving, subsidize it.
That's what happens when the proposed panacea is not a panacea like most panaceas.
We can't even power up our houses now in the winter without black outs, how are more EVs going to help? And it's not even mostly solar yet? Wait til the sun don't shine for a week at the solar farm...
Someone's smoking something and the people are the ones getting covered in smoke.
The "rules" don't permit me to tell the rest of the story...
One thing is certain, nothing remains the same and for those who think EV is a panacea, think again. Evolution will dictate that it will foster it's own problems, with owners being less able to address those issues. With AI technology and the thrust to abolish anything perceived as enviromentally detrimental (while our enemies pollute with impunity); I believe that a person's mobility & ownership rights will be challenged. The cost of building & maintaining EVs (& the depletion of natural resources related to their manufacture) is a wild card at this point. This will further impact culture change and how the automobile will be viewed, which in turn will impact how future generations regard them including our vintage Cadillacs. Following WWII the use of a personal car was an extension of one's mobility & ownership rights, but that will change. So enjoy your vintage Caddies as long as you can. Someday the public will have to visit a museum to see what remains of them. Clay/Lexi
Without being political 🤣, our government (United Kingdom)recently announced that they will be taxing EV's at the same rate as gasoline and diesel vehicles from 2025. Strangely EV sales have tapered off since that announcement. Oh dear, what a shame 🤣🤣
The film Planet of the Humans gives a good incite into the "green energy" debacle. Free to watch on YouTube. People may be surprised to see who the producer of the film is.
The point I was trying to make was "Don't despair, there will ALWAYS be something for us to gripe about".
Greg Surfas
So just as a bit of comfort, below is an excerp from the SAE newsletter I just received
Despite an intention to move to all-electric engines for consumer vehicles by 2035, General Motors plans to inject $918 million into four plants that are producing primarily V-8, gas-powered engines in Michigan, Ohio and New York. The move to keep gas-powered SUVs and full-size pickups in production suggests United Auto Workers members "will remain a vital part of GM's future," UAW President Ray Curry says.
(1/20)
Now for those who might be a bit confused, consider yourselves quite a majority
Greg Surfas
I heard a podcast yesterday https://youtu.be/2tA4mct5CB8 where it was claimed that the state of Wyoming is or has banned the sale of EV's. Is this correct?
Quote from: "Cadillac Kid" Greg Surfas 15364 on January 23, 2023, 02:20:33 PMSo just as a bit of comfort, below is an excerp from the SAE newsletter I just received
Despite an intention to move to all-electric engines for consumer vehicles by 2035, General Motors plans to inject $918 million into four plants that are producing primarily V-8, gas-powered engines in Michigan, Ohio and New York. The move to keep gas-powered SUVs and full-size pickups in production suggests United Auto Workers members "will remain a vital part of GM's future," UAW President Ray Curry says.
(1/20)
Now for those who might be a bit confused, consider yourselves quite a majority
Greg Surfas
I think they're learning that for folks who buy a big pickup or SUV for towing, EV presently isn't the answer.
I paid to have recycling along with my trash at home-- Like many people. It cost more, and I spent time separating my trash because I thought it was the right thing to do. That was until 2 weeks in a row I saw them throw the recycling in the same truck as the trash- Then I cancelled.
People are buying EV's because it is the popular thing to do. I have a feeling that in a few years we MAY realize that while we are trying here, places like China, India, etc aren't doing the same and EV's aren't really making a difference. That, combined with problems recycling the batteries, and what we do to the Earth to mine the stuff, May make EV's less attractive.
Time will tell.
Jeff R
The BIG problem is going to be in 20 years time, when people that want, or need to buy a cheap car will not be able to.
Or, if they do buy a cheap car, they won't be able to afford to replace the battery, let alone pay the recycling fee.
Bruce. >:D
See Always something to gripe about
Greg Surfas
Well, even my "New" cars are at least 10 years old. My first car was just under 30 years old.
I have purchased thousands of new cars, but those were work orders, oh, and it wasn't my money.
Bruce. >:D
Quote from: The Tassie Devil(le) on January 23, 2023, 08:04:57 PMThe BIG problem is going to be in 20 years time, when people that want, or need to buy a cheap car will not be able to.
Or, if they do buy a cheap car, they won't be able to afford to replace the battery, let alone pay the recycling fee.
Bruce. >:D
Agreed. It will be hard for a high school or college kid to have a junk car. Mine were pieces of junk-- Because I couldn't afford anything better. I wonder what the "poor" kids will do then.
Jeff R
A lot of people under 30 dont even like cars.
Some kids that do will piece them together from junked electric cars.
It'll be cheaper to do so in 20 years.