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Title: 1968 Eldorado Brake Master Cylinder Nightmare
Post by: Forgiven1989 on January 23, 2013, 06:52:40 PM
My master cylinder on my 68 Eldorado was leaking so I sent it to Cardone through NAPA to get rebuilt because none are available.  Received it back and installed it.  2 weeks later it is leaking again.  Now Cardone says it may need a new booster because it may allowing the brake rod to go into the master c. too far.  Any ideas?  Thanks.    UPDATE;  Here is the latest from Cardone;  They are saying that my brake booster is bad and it is sucking the fluid out of the back of the rebuilt MC.  Has anyone ever heard of that?  Thanks.
Title: Re: 1968 Eldorado Brake Master Cylinder Nightmare
Post by: The Tassie Devil(le) on January 23, 2013, 06:58:25 PM
G'day David,

If you received your old MC back, rebuilt, then I would be sending it back, as unless you have changed the M/C in the meantime, it is their problem.

But, before doing anything further, check the position of the Pushrod length out of the Booster, against the depth of the M/C Piston, measuring from the relative mounting surfaces.

A correctly built MC should never leak, but don't strip it down as if you do, they will have a reason to avoid honouring your Warranty Claim.

Bruce. >:D
Title: Re: 1968 Eldorado Brake Master Cylinder Nightmare
Post by: Dave Shepherd on January 24, 2013, 02:14:45 PM
Good advice by Bruce, to add the pushrod should have about 1/8 free play in the m/c, also I wouldn't let Cardone touch any of our parts, I've trouble had with reman axles and electronic components from them, are you sure Rockauto does not have a new one?
Title: Re: 1968 Eldorado Brake Master Cylinder Nightmare
Post by: Forgiven1989 on January 24, 2013, 06:53:50 PM
No Rock auto does not carry a new MC for the 68 eldorado.
Title: Re: 1968 Eldorado Brake Master Cylinder Nightmare
Post by: Dave Shepherd on January 24, 2013, 07:45:25 PM
Next time you need this done, White Post Restorations in VA. Or do it yourself like we do in my shop, no sleeved cylinders though so if rust pitted beyond our limits off it goes the WP.
Title: Re: 1968 Eldorado Brake Master Cylinder Nightmare
Post by: CEC #20099 on January 24, 2013, 08:56:08 PM
I had Cardone rebuild my 88 F150 ABS control valve, thru Rockauto. Never worked right out of the box. Disconnected ABS & Regular brakes 100 % better. Cardone used to have a good reputation .......
c chleboun # 20099
Title: Re: 1968 Eldorado Brake Master Cylinder Nightmare
Post by: Steve W on January 25, 2013, 08:53:27 PM
I got my replacement m/c from a local auto parts store. Its probably a rebuilt or reman, but it was readily available. Works great! I don't know if an Eldorado uses a different m/c than a Coupe deVille though...
Title: Re: 1968 Eldorado Brake Master Cylinder Nightmare
Post by: Forgiven1989 on January 25, 2013, 09:26:33 PM
The lines on the 68 Coupe Deville are on the opposite side of the unit.  It won't work on the 68 Eldorado.
Title: Re: 1968 Eldorado Brake Master Cylinder Nightmare
Post by: Glen on January 26, 2013, 12:17:00 AM
The M/C for the 68 Eldo is used on only the Eldo the 75 series and the Commercial Chassis.  All 68s for Cadillac only.  Not sure about other makes/models
Title: Re: 1968 Eldorado Brake Master Cylinder Nightmare
Post by: Viator Trudeau on February 07, 2013, 08:10:34 PM
In apx. 1989 i had my master cyl. on my '68 ELDO.  This model had the lines on the inboard side.


Isent to cardone for rebuilding. It cost $45.00 plus shipping.  A short time later it was leaking.  I took it apart and discovered a rust track on the bottom of the cylinder caused by water laying there. that they did not remove enough metal when honing.  I finally honed it smooth after a couple hours.  It leaked 4-5 years later, I sent it in to a re-sleever in  ST. Paul, MN. 
V. Trudeau
Title: Re: 1968 Eldorado Brake Master Cylinder Nightmare
Post by: 76eldo on February 08, 2013, 09:59:57 AM
White Post in VA has been doing these for years.  I don't know if they can specifically do your 68 Eldo MC but they have a great reputation for these repairs.  Hopefully the seals inside are the same as other GM units.

Brian
Title: Re: 1968 Eldorado Brake Master Cylinder Nightmare
Post by: TJ Hopland on February 09, 2013, 09:37:55 AM
I'm pretty sure that St. Paul company still exists.   A friend used them recently to rebuild the brakes in his 50 nash.   I seem to recall it did not even seem expensive.   If someone else does not know the name I can ask.