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Title: Transmission rear Oil Seal?
Post by: Herbie on November 23, 2013, 09:50:47 PM
 :( Where can I get a rear (output) oil seal for my 1936 LaSalle 3 speed?
Title: Re: Transmission rear Oil Seal?
Post by: sjocad on November 24, 2013, 01:17:43 AM
KANTER  ,in NJ
Title: Re: Transmission rear Oil Seal?
Post by: Steve Passmore on November 24, 2013, 04:10:47 AM
I cant find any mention of transmission seals in Kaners catalog Svien, remember, the 36 is a straight 8 and not the same as yours.  The trans is different also.
My first action would be to remove the seal Herbie and take it to your nearest seal and bearing suppliers. Seals are made to a list of sizes and there will be a modern application that fits I'm sure.  On 37 models the seal is a really deep one but can be replaced using two thinner ones to great effect.
Title: Re: Transmission rear Oil Seal?
Post by: Jay Friedman on November 24, 2013, 12:53:37 PM
Another possibility is Olcar Bearings and Seals, Southern Pines NC, phone: 910-693-3324

I've dealt with this firm quite a bit and have always been totally satisfied.
Title: Re: Transmission rear Oil Seal?
Post by: Steve Passmore on November 24, 2013, 02:41:25 PM
Quote from: Jay Friedman on November 24, 2013, 12:53:37 PM
Another possibility is Olcar Bearings and Seals, Southern Pines NC, phone: 910-693-3324

I've dealt with this firm quite a bit and have always been totally satisfied.

I'll second that, George Bachleada is your top man at Olcar. no one knows more about bearings and seals than George.
Title: Re: Transmission rear Oil Seal?
Post by: sjocad on November 25, 2013, 11:52:58 PM
I did the same Steve P-
A shop here in Town,can make new seals.




37 Lasalle coupe.
76 Fleetwood
Title: Re: Transmission rear Oil Seal?
Post by: Glen on November 26, 2013, 12:05:56 AM
Many times you can go to a local bearing shop and they will be able to find a new seal using the numbers off the old seal. 
Title: Re: Transmission rear Oil Seal?
Post by: Herbie on November 26, 2013, 12:14:54 PM
There are no numbers on the seal. I've tried all the seal places to no avail. Northwest Transmission advised you cannot find them. They want to bore out the housing and grind the yoke to fit another bearing. The size if at housing (OD) 2.935" X 1/4" wide X 2.234" ID. HELP!
Title: Re: Transmission rear Oil Seal?
Post by: Herbie on November 26, 2013, 10:13:31 PM
Reply from Kanter just in, "NO GOT!"
Title: Re: Transmission rear Oil Seal?
Post by: Steve Passmore on November 27, 2013, 02:47:41 AM
Give  George Bachleada  a ring at Olcar Bearings.
Title: Re: Transmission rear Oil Seal?
Post by: Herbie on November 29, 2013, 10:09:35 AM
George at Olcar tried but no dice or seal.

Still stumped! :-\
Title: Re: Transmission rear Oil Seal?
Post by: Glen on November 30, 2013, 12:15:49 AM
I don’t know if you have the factory part number but I will pass this on to you in case it would help.  The 1935 and 1936 LaSalles (series 50) used the same seal.  Cadillac part number is 141 5317.  If someone has a cross reference to a manufacture’s number you maybe able to track one down. 

I hope this helps.   
Title: Re: Transmission rear Oil Seal?
Post by: Herbie on November 30, 2013, 12:10:07 PM
The word from George at Olcar is, "We don't have it and no can get."

So I am going to try something radical.

I took the seal apart (very carefully) removing the old leather, found a local O-Ring supplier and tried two. The smaller OD of the two fit in the original seal's metal casing. After using some new Gear Oil specific sealer it is sitting in the car now curing. I know, O-Rings are not meant for rotary sealing but time will tell.

Otherwise the yoke and the rear housing will be going off to Northwest Transmission for some machine work to fit an available seal. Wish me luck.