Hi,
I have guy who wants trade my 1960 eldo convertible thats an basket case and needs an totol restore and totol new everything.M My chassis is sandblasted and repainted, engine rebuilt, tons repropuction redone eldo trim , lots work. It has has complete extra chassis with it.
His 1959 eldo serville is an persion sand that was repainted red. His eldo is all rust free and runs good. Its missing all lower stainless steal parts and decklid bar . Those parts can bought all new repro for 5000 to 6000 from new jersery.
Its missing the the tripower and eldo onley hubcabs . He said I can remove those from my car and use on the 59 eldo serville. His car is an rust free car and runs but engine is very old and all the inner fenders need restored since its faded out back.
His car needs full interior replace at an cost 9250 from hill jenkins to install the correct persion sand interior. Just dash wants 1200 to redo dash.
He used this car as parts car to rebuild an 1959 eldo convertible is the reason its missing the eldo side trim. He is giving the upper eldo trim I cant get repro.
There Is one problem I see its missing the rear upper door panels that were eldo onley and I cant find them anywhere. He dont have them. That part bothers them big time since . eldo onley parts are like trying find an neadle in haystack.
The main reason I thinking about trade is I dont have buy secord car cut out floor pans and try to rewire an car totol on my 60 eldo convertible since the riped the dash out and wiring out the car. I dont have worry about expensive top frame rebuilding, rust repair and alls it involved in doing an every nut or bolt restore.
His car is quick repaint and new interior and maybe detail the engine the and detail the underside od car. Not an every nut or bolt rebuild or whatever.
I tryed 3 years on selling on my car and never could since they dont want to do every nut or bolt restore or move in an semi trailer.
I always wanted an 1959 eldo convertible but I cant afford to pay 125000 to 150000 for car ready to go. Maybe an 1959 eldo serville is my answer to my problem .
I tryed price check other 1959 eldo serville but I cant find them anywhere for sale these days. Those serville are rare cars for sure. I know I cant find them.
Is worth it or not????????????
Dale
Dale, Dale, Dale... just a few words of caution to avoid getting carried away:
I am the first one to understand that you want to buy a 59 Eldorado. Wouldn´t we all. But a Seville that has been used as a donor car for a Biarritz (or to eldoradoize a Series 62 convertible?) WILL most certainly need not a few parts here and there, but maybe MOST parts in drive train, body and so on replaced within a not-too-distant future IN ADDITION to the things you listed that are allready known. I repeat: EVERY Cadillac nut in the world would like to own and restore a 59 Eldo Seville. A project car that has allready given it´s best parts to another project would be a nice project for someone with unlimited funds, a professional restorer or as a future project for which the owner could collect parts for maybe 5 or 10 years before he actually starts restoring it.
BUT: Is it the right project car for a guy like me, who can´t turn a wrench myself, or for you, Dale, who - no offense - has had limited success in getting actual work done on your 62 and 60 Eldorados until now?
Even so, if that was the only side of it I would say maybe it didn´t matter what car you had, the 60 Biarritz or a 59 Seville, if you had the funds, if you actually enjoyed the restoration process and didn´t at all long for the road. But let´s not forget what kind of heartaches you have gone thru so far - I suspect that what you actually want to do is not restoring, but driving and enjoying. Believe me, this 59 project, how tempting it may sound, will give you MORE OF THE SAME before you can actually get behind the wheel. Maybe the 59 will give you 4 years of misery while the 60 that you allready own will give you 6 before you are there. However, my end point is that even 4 years of misery is a lot - and from what I have read out of your posts, you shouldn´t want to go that way.
I think some part of your brain is desperately looking for chances to get out of the 60 more than looking for something else to get into. And if the owner of the 59 is interested, I am sure he will find a new owner for the 59 pretty soon. With a low dollar and us Scandinavians with a constant love for the finned Cadillacs of 1959, it shouldn´t take more than an eBay auction before the 59 is on it´s way to Norway or Sweden, and the seller should have his pockets full of green cash he could pass on to you while releaving you of the 60 - and all the aggrevation you have invested in it so far. Then you would have your garage free, your mind clear, and money in your pocket.
Not enough to buy a 59 or 60 Eldorado in running condition, but maybe enough to get a decent 60ies ragtop driver to enjoy. Listen to the words "enjoyment" and "Cadillac" together: Wouldn´t THAT be great for a change?
Again: No offense intended, just wanted to stress a few points that I guess are pretty clear to those of us who have followed your Eldorado quandries so far...
Regards, Tore
Norway
64 Eldo
76 Eldo Conv
78 Sev Ele
80 FBd´E
Tore imho Dale does not care one bit about driving any 59 or 60. He only cares about the almighty dollar. Just ask those that he has admitted to screwing over on parts and his 62 Eldo. By responding to his post we only feed his need to have others feel sorry for his own screw ups. I got so tried of his woo is me story that I made him a cash offer for his 60 and all his parts on condition that he not use the money to buy another Cadillac. He still has a couple of days to accept that offer. I can only hope that he takes me up and I no longer have to read such post as above.
Stampie
Stampie,
Sorry you dont know me in person. On what you offered for my car is below real world market value. Its worth more than what you offered for it. Thats why I never talked to you buying it unless you can pay more money for my car. I dont have tell what its worth and felt like what you wanted to pay was an insult to me. Thats why I never asked you about it.
Stampie I never riped peaple off on ebay. They knew they were buying damaged or cores, messed up parts. I give them photos and they read my discrption saying its not perfect or needs to redone before they use. Check my completed sales if want under chevrolet454ss if want. Some parts went for money than should because they went into biding wars. Some of my parts I sold under market value on ebay. The onley reason I said anything about where peaple will not overpay for parts . I did it where peaple who buy parts will be careful on what they buying.I warning other cadillac guys where they dont get screwed over.
On 62 eldo I wrote on bill on sale the car had frame damage and servere rust out problems. The J molding thing was because I stored car in wharehouse for 9 or 10 monlths rent free . That man knew he buying an servere rust buck with frame damage. I sent him 40 photos. If want I give his phone number and you call him ask for yourself . He nice man an pastor of church. If car was not junk I could have sold 10000 to 45000 not 2500 like I did. Like I Stampie if want you can call him and ask him for yourself.
On speedometer rebuild in usa. The law says you half to reset to them 00000 If they are broken and being repaired. I asked those guys on the properway on how rebuild them back to correct. They went nuts and thought I being crook or selling bad parts. I wanted ask them proper way on how to rebuild them but they never told me . I would have and fixed them proper way like replace bushing and test them or send to speedometer and pay them to rebuild heads for them.
On the money thing your talking about. You are right since I am car dealer and make my living buying and selling car for living. You lay cable or cable tv repair. I dont know. I need get an car I can build fast and make money to pay my bills and live it on and buy more cars for resell. Without money or cars I cant make my living. Same thing if I took your cable repair truck or tools away from you. You cant work. I need cars that turn an profit quick.
Trust I wish My 1960 eldo or an 1959 cadillac was my hobbie car not stuggle to build it back where I can sell to make an living. I never wanted that in 2003 when I bought it. I looked for 13 years for an 59 or 60 cadillac before I bought those in 2003. Trust me I want nice driver 59 or 60 I dont have to resell . I would rather keep it and rebuild back to brand new and never sell it since thats what is 59 or 60 eldo.
I dont have choice and I cant keep it anymore since I cant handle all the problems with delayed with 6 to 8 week wait time. chrome shops, parts suppliers,rust repair I cant fix since I not an bodyman or welder., wiring problems, all stuff other involved in doing an totol frame off restore on any car. Its more trouble than its worth for sure. I am sick of dealing with car for sure.
I thinking the 59 eldo would help me get out the 60 eldo problems since its runs and drives and its rust free not needing tons metal replacement I cant do for sure. I want out that car for sure and just dont want deal with it anymore. 3 years time in that car is to much for me.
A car that runs under its own power and not rusted out is easy sell compared to non operation basket case car for sure. Peaple love those 59 eldo for sure in sweden or overseas.
Stampie and Bruce why did you give such bad time and insult and keep saying bad things about me. I dont deserve that. I trying beter my life and get back where I used be when I was richman and owned my car lot. I will admit its messed up and trying the best I can spending 80 hours week in front my computer trying sell cadillac parts on ebay where I can buy next part I need. Its very hard since there is very limited market on vintage auto parts. I cant find no jobs in south texas and dont have money to go back school .
I feel like you two guys has trashed me and insulted me and all that.
Sorry whatever did I ever do to you peaple to hate me or trashme or whatever. I dont know.
Stampie If I insulted by wanting part out your car for parts sorry . Its an common practise for guys rebuilding those 59 or 60 eldo convertibles. I never meant any harm from it. I always tryed to be nice to you I thought.
I cant change the past and did make mistakes. You dont know what like to almost lose everything you ever had like me. It screws your brain up and makes you want live in dispair, fear or whatever.
I am trying fight to get back up again where I was before. Its involves me doing something with my cadillac to do it.
Dale
Quote from: dale jacksonI thinking the 59 eldo would help me get out the 60 eldo problems since its runs and drives and its rust free not needing tons metal replacement I cant do for sure. I want out that car for sure and just dont want deal with it anymore. 3 years time in that car is to much for me.
OK, let me translate my last post into just three sentences:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, but it will be needing tons of OTHER stuff that you CAN´T DO EITHER, and only help you into ANOTHER farce just like the first one, and you DON´T WANT THAT! If you think the 59 is so easy to sell, let the owner sell it to someone else so that he can buy your 60 afterwards! Yes, I have no problem believing that what you have been thru can make your brain act up like you admit it has done, but then for the love of God, when you ask us for advice over and over again, try to respond to it and don´t go doing the exact thing we say you shouldn´t!
Oh well.
Regards, Tore
Norway
64 Eldo
76 Eldo Conv
78 Sev Ele
80 FBd´E
Dale,
I already knew the answer to your question and so do you : make the swap.
You stated as such, " A car that runs under its own power and not rusted out is easy sell compared to non operation basket case car for sure. Peaple love those 59 eldo for sure in sweden or overseas. "
You had a chance to sell the 60 Eldo on eBay but you didnt drop your reserve a few $ 100 bucks as we told you to do so.
Just get out of this thing already and move on. Let someone that has the resources, talent or the funds to restore you 60 Eldo for whatever reason they want to, ownership or resale, end of story.
Do what you want with the Seville, keep it or sell it. Be like most of us, own and enjoy a common Cadillac within your financial means.
Porter
Portor, Tora,
Maybe I to think about what I doing since I been so desperate to do something with 60 eldo for sure.
I was thinking that 59 car could be answer but its needs 9500 worth of new interior. Rear door panels I cant find anywhere that were eldo onley. Those stainless steel inserts. It cost 4000 for repro lower stainless trim, 1500 for repro truck bar and maybe the tailight v and eldo onley rear grille. Like I said it striped to build an 1959 eldo convertible.
MY car has two sets trim and all the eldo parts that was missing in 2003 I replaced. I have parts where If an person wanted they convert another car to eldo or build an serville like the 59 eldo that they striped to build an convertible. Those parts are rare and sometimes you half to look for years for them.
I thinking Tora maybe right I would need look and look for very to replace all its missing 59 eldo parts. I did that once and took 3 years for me replace the missing parts on my eldo. Some parts I bought I never seen since ever come up for sale again. I twice an day for eldo onley parts on ebay.
Like I said It may beter to keep my car and just try again sell it outright . My car has not been listed on ebay in over an year . With my car they dont need to destoy another eldo like they the 59 car.
It may do beter this time since car is more than complete and have double and some triple on the rare onley eldo parts.
They onley want 10k for the 59 striped serville. I dont know If worth it at that price since its missing all good stuff. Its like coupe deville with no hubcabs, tripower either. They pulled all good stuff from it.
My plan with 59 serville was to list it ebay with an set eldo hubcabs and tripower. With The uppper 59 trim you cant buy repropuction. Let next guy find rear door panels and pay 5500 for repro parts to fix it. I was maybe going Include all my extra 59 cadillac parts I have lefht in stock.
I wanted get rid of my intire collection full Of 3 building full of parts and just start over with an 3 emtry building.
I would love start and not even own 1 cadillac part or an rebuilder or project car for once in my life.
Maybe take Portor advice and buy an driver I can just pay for in cash and no more rebuilds , or buying and selling parts anymore. Buy an car I can aford and just keep it . I know I would love 60 or 59 deville to drive that dont need anywork on it.
Dale
So it is a stripped down Seville, now it is like a CDV, what is wrong with that ? You can leave it as a CDV and if you want to sell it represent it as such, a former Seville.
Here you have an opportunity to finally get rid of your 60 Eldo and all your parts, clean out your three bay garage.
You can look at this any way you want, I cant pass judgement on the Seville without a personal inspection of the vehicle.
We are all responsible for our decisions in life, including cars for a hobby or a business.
You have to make your own decisions, live and learn and move on.
I have repeatly stated your first loss is your best loss, you cant always get right side up after making a bad decision and cutting your losses is a fact of life.
Porter
Portor,
I sent the ownor of the serville an 5 page invortary sheet on my 3 building full of parts. I sent 50 or 70 photes of it all. I am waiting on him call me back . It up him and what he wants to do. Its out my hands.
Your right an 59 coupe deville is not that bad an car after all. I was amazed that car was rust free like it was. It would an easy car for person repaint it and stuff. I wish all cars were that nice with no metal work needed.
I know it what your saying peaple are respoible for actions in there life. I cant change the past on my mistakes I made but I am working to correct them.
I just wish peaple Like Stampie Or Bruce would not insult me like they do. They Keep bringing up stuff 2004 or 2003. Its 2006. They dont know me in person and they cant tell. I wish I knew why Stampie Hates me so much. Reason I say that is stuff he wrote about me and stuff. Read the stuff he writes about me and you will see. Its like He mad at me or hates me for some strange reason. I never know since I am not in conact with those two guys. Its seems I feel like they are going mess with me forever or insult, make me look bad or whatever. I wish I knew why they doing it. It got me for sure.
I think Personally I am doing right thing or best I can under the adverse circurmatics with stuff I do. I am trying to do right thing and been doing it seems. But to them I doing wrong thing or they think I am trashcan man or whatever. They Dont understand I guess. I cant live my life perfect and I dont judge other peaple . No one is perfect or can live up to I think.
Dale
One Last thing Portor your correct On first loss is best loss If you learn from it and dont do again. I dont ever see me buying an basket case car ever again like my car was in 2003. Its beter to buy decent cars to deal with unless they super cheap like 1000 or less on those need everything cars. Just Like like Stampie told me In 2003 when I first met him. He always said Never pay more for car that you cant part out to get your money back or something like that. I forgot.
I dont want to sound hard on you Dale, but you only reap what you sow. If at any time you said anything bad about somebody, (using your own name, or an alias), chances are it will boomerang right back at you. You have to admit that a lot of folks went out of their way to give you the advice you seemed to need ...but you decided to play it your own way, as you probably will do again, this time. My opinion: dont buy (or trade) your "problem" car for just another "problem" car. It sounds to all of us here, on the forum, like thats exactly what youre about to do. The 59 Seville is even rarer than the 60 Biarritz, dont expect to find parts for it on eBay or at swap meets ...and if you do, be ready to pay BIG BUCKS for them.
Without wanting to rub it in, just last week a buddy of mine in France bought for the equivalent of $20K a VERY NICE, complete, original (but for paint), low-mileage, 2-owner 59 Seville (an export model that was first shipped to France and has a km speedo and odometer). In 1964, the second owner had the car repainted from black to white and covered the original black leather upholstery with professionally-fitted, cream-colored seat covers. My buddy took off the seat covers lqat week and found the black leather seats below in like-new condition. The car also came with a number of OEM parts including SIX new bellows/diaphragms for the (fully functional) air-suspension system. It cant get better than that (these cost around $600 each, today).
Ive actually known the car since the early eighties when the 2nd owner wanted to trade me for a low-milage 76 Fleetwood limo (if I could find him one). We had just got a 59 Coupe de Ville and a 60 Biarritz ...as well as a house for which we had to sell our souls to the devil, so I had to turn down the deal. Regrets : Yes, Ive had a few !
First I dont hate anyone. I dislike some people and I guess you would fall under that label. I really dont think you want all the reasons for that in a public forum like this.
Second I offered $8000 for your eldo and parts. From your post it seems that you think it is worth $10,000 as you are willing to trade it for the Seville. If you were serious about getting rid of it wouldnt you at least make a counter offer? I will also need a legal document from you saying that you will not buy another Cadillac if we do reach a deal.
This will be my last contact with you unless you wish to take me up on my offer. I think that you just want the world to feel sorry for you or maybe you just want attention. You will not get it from me.
Stampie
PS - My rule is never pay more for a car sight unseen than you know you can part it out for. I guess Ill need that inventory list.
Yann,
Your freind that stole 1959 serville for 20000 if its correct. I called serval dealers they say those 59 servilles are worth between 35000 to 50000 . One dealer Sold one ready to go last year for 35000 and sold an eldo convertible for 125000 last week also. If onley paid 20000 he got an killer deal on that serville.
Your right on 59 or 60 eldo parts they expensive. Serval weeks ago I saw an set Bucket seats sell 2200 on ebay, They were all rusted big time. They had tripower restored air cleaner sell for 1800 last week. Dented up hubcabs selling for 600 to 800. 750 for nos air ride T fitting. 250 map light lenses nos, 485 for nos headlight switch with Fog switch. Your right they big money for those 59 or 60 eldo parts.
I dont know If know this or Not. Tony In new jersey started remaking the 1959 eldo rockor and sells it for 4000 an set. For 4000 you get two door peices, two skirts, the lower parts that mount on rear behind bumpers. Its intire set for car minus the long upper quater peices and upper peices that mount on doors. If person had upper parts they could convert an car to eldo if they wanted.
They even started remaking the v that go in tailights and truck bar. You cant buy rear bumper grille with all points. You buy that from Fleetwood or eldo.
The parts you cant buy are Interior stainless inserts thats in door panels of those cars.
Your right those eldo Onley on 59 or 60 never come up sale when they do they expensive. I was looking drivers side C molding to an 1960 eldo for 3 years and I never seen one for sale. I have one to car but Its dented up. I even thought about having it remade using my as template . I canT find the peaple with special tools to bend it and shape it using my extra Long side peices I have. They Can repair mine but they cant remake at chrome shop since its curved an certain way.
I wanted an extra set to car just case if car ever got damaged or wrecked. I was luckey I bought secord set Of all eldo trim to my 60 car. It was Removed from an serville they parted out in 1991 or years ago. It sat for years before I bought it.
You maybe right those cars are worth onley 20000 like your freind bought his 59 serville. Its hard to trust dealers prices since they are hyped up or whatever.
It would cost 15000 to 20000 to restore that other guys serville I was talking about I think. 9500 interior, 5000 to 10000 to paint, 6000 worth of repro eldo parts . Thats not including the rear door panels with stainless Inserts or the rear bumper grille.
Thats not Including the mechacial stuff Brakes or whatever esle it needs, having my tripower rebuilt or restored I have already. My hubcabs are dented up with road rash. I looked for 3 years and never found good set out there without dents or road rash.
I guess I think long about it before I do anything. My car is complete with the rare parts but its needs all rust repair and all the work to finish it .
It maybe beter Just try list car on ebay in next few weeks as an complete car and all its eldo onley parts to see what happens.
You never Know It may do good in 2006 on ebay since its has another 1960 parts car with it and all its rare parts compared to lots of it missing in 2004 or 2005 when I ran it.
I have not seen any other 1960 eldorado on ebay in last year becides those restored cars. It may do good and I can buy nice 59 or 60 car that dont need work or restored like those cars do. It would nice to have nice driving car for once becides rebuilders or projects cars.
One Last thing thanks for last 3 of advice and stuff. The reason for that Other stuff your were Talking about . Is Me an Bruce and Stampie were Fighting over some stuff that Happened serval weeks ago. Long Storey on that one. I was upset over something that happened bewteen me those two guys. I have not talked with them since.
Bruce Is very Good On mechanic stuff. His ideas work For sure. Since I tryed them before. I just read Stampie Post saying He dislike Me for some reason. I dont know on that one. Maybe he will tell me soonor or later. Becides telling to never buy an cadillac ever or wanting sign paper saying I will never buy an cadillac in my life.
Dale
Stampie,
Check your email. If want my car fly to texas and inspect it. You can check it for self and spend all day long inspecting the 3 building full of parts. I hope you have 5000 Squre foot building to put all in or 18 wheeler to move it. Its Giant load for sure.
Whats the Deal with you Me not wanting buy another Cadillac or whatever. I hate to say I like those cars and looked 13 years for an car before I bought my eldo. I still love those cars
Air line tickets are cheap maybe 200 bucks round trip from Jacksonville to houston.
One last thing I never asked anybody to feel sorry for me or whatever. You must be dreaming why or thinking about other peaple. I wanted build that car back to new at any cost even If I need take part another car or whatever serval monlths ago. I was going work like slave to rebuild that 60 eldo 70 or 90 hours an week intill I finished it. I was going do whatever I had to build one part at time. I not lazey and will work If have to at any cost.
Send Me email why you Dislike me so much. I thought I ask since its been buging me.
Sorry I dont like thought of peaple not liking me for whatever reason.
Its like you dont like Idea an person rebuilding that car back new . Its saving an rare car Or maybe you want it where you can work like slave to rebuild back to new becides me.
If you buy I would like written paper saying you will not part out my 60 eldo just you Like wanting an paper saying I will not buy another cadillac. You can build it back to brand new with Jenkins interior, new paint, all parts rechromed etc. New Floors, .
Your have Masterpiece when finished you can drive it and enjoy it.
Dale
If anyone is interested I have a line on some swampland in New Orleans. A guy offered to trade me a couple acres in Wyoming - should I take it?
Dale - just do something to get rid of your car. I know that I am very tired of hearing about it, also.
Hey Stampie,
Ill rent the Tractor/Trailer to haul the stuff in. Maybe Ill need 2, but thats OK, I have a Class a CDL with Haz Mat, doubles and triples. Well load up everything including the POS Eldo and take it to the nearest hill with a straight down drop. Open the doors and let er rip.
After that we will never have to hear another thing about the whole deal.
Oh, and BTW; when all is said and done Ill get in my (GASP) 59 Cadillac, (GASP AGAIN) a 4 door Sedan deVille, (how primitive) with its imperfect paint and faded original interior, crank up my Pink Floyd in the CD player, light a cigar and go merrily down the road. Did I forget to mention, there is no A/C also, and its black.
Sure wish I could have a Seville or Eldorado. But alas...Im happy with what I have. Turn-Key enjoyment!!!!!!!
John
I have a complete unit in very nice condition.
Mark
John,
You cant Help Stampie throw my car off an cliff since he backed out of deal for whatever Reason. I guess Its history Between us.
He wanted Me to sighn an legral paper saying I will not buy or sell an Cadillac Or Cadillac part intill the year 2016. For 10 Years for some strange reason. I dont know why he said that. It truth not an joke. I thought it was joke to.
After that I wanted Him to sighn an legral Paper saying he will Not part out my car and will rebuild back to brand new. He wanted part it out. He would not sighn an legral paper just like I will not sighn his legral paper.
He never would tell why I cant buy say an nice nicer afterwards or another cadillac for 10 years.
I guess Its History with Stampie. We got upset and we started geting mean with other in our email back forth. His Last email he wrote he wanted put me in jail or whatever. I wanted to put him Jail afterwards also.
For whatever reason we never even talked about money. It was more like shouting match on who could make each other more mad at each other. Thats Its in an Nutshell. There Is bad blood between us.
Dale
Dale, I would & Im sure that other people also would like to see some pictures of your car with you standing along side of it. Could you provide a link? Thanks, Bob
Now Dale tell the truth. I asked you several times to not cuss in your emails. In between the cussing all you did was ramble on with no direction. After I saw the discussions going no where I asked that you not contact me again yet you send three more rambling emails. You are right in that I am no longer interested in your car. Good luck in your journey and may you someday turn your life around.
Stampie
Stampie,
You asked it for with stupid demands with legral documents and laywers or whatever.
1. Saying I cant buy or sell cadillac cars or parts for 10 years.
2. Saying you did not read 90percent of the paperwork I sent to you parts invortary or what that was about.
3. The Issues or stuff asked I you about you did not even adress or say anything.
4. You kept writing all demands and would not address anything I asked . Why I cant sell cadillac stuff anymore.
To tell truth I used Be an car dealer and sold cars to over 200 peaple peaple. You dont know how to buy car when start saying all those strange demands you are talking about. I thought it joke or whatever since you dont go legral details or ask the seller not sell cadillacs or parts any more for 10 years or whatever esle you said in your leters. If were on my car lot in houston I laugh at you and make you leave my car lot or let my repomen or sales guy deal with you.
The Correct way on buying an car.
1. You read over and inspect the photes and not ask stupid things like not selling cadillac cars for 10 years.
2. You ask for price and you go from there. Its numbers game and you know what I mean.
It was your fault I bent over backwards and sent secord page full of invotary and maybe 60 photes of my stuff.
I should Did Have done that first . I forgot. I learned in sales . Quafffied the Buyer before you waste time on them. Peaple will drive you nuts in sales not buy anything If you dont.
One thing I no good with leters or emails. You should called me on phone since I cant spell or write very good as you can see.
Face there was already bad Blood Between us already for stuff thats been going for about monlth or more.
If you wanted buy you should have got somebody esle becides you to deal with me since we were mad at each other before we even tryed to do anything whatever. Stuff like you In past saying those slander post about me or whatever man. You already insulted me before that and you just made it worse than before. I still Feel like wronged me or messed with me for no reason before that.
Dale
For entertainments sake, I really wish I could read this thread; really I do. My brain just wont allow me to finish reading any of Dales posts for some reason.
Summary as I know it:
Dale bought a 1960 Eldo and lots of parts
The car is totally apart and sits in his garage with junk all over it and around it (saw pics on Ebay)
It needs floors, you can see the previously performed bodywork and the dash board is a mess of wires
Dale has tried a couple times to sell the car on Ebay but he has been all over the web telling anyone who will listen that it is a disaster
Some people offered to help Dale write a better description to sell the car on Ebay but I dont think that he took anyone up on this offer.
It was suggested that he get rid of the junk around the car and pull it out of the garage when taking pics and to lay out the extra parts so a buyer could see what comes with the car that was never done either
There were some bids on the car and many people told him to lower his reserve and to take the money and run but he didnt do that either
Dale has spent more money buying parts for the car
Its obvious that the car will never get back together in the next 50 years
Supposedly someone offered to trade Dale a 59 Seville for his 60 Eldo and he cant figure out if he should do it
Hes driving his parents car because he doesnt have another car of his own that runs
A lot of people are really tired of hearing about this car so Stampie offered to buy the car and all the parts but stipulated that Dale couldnt buy another Cadillac for so many years because he was really tired of hearing about Dales car problems
Dale has had several shady dealings selling parts on Ebay or elsewhere the last couple years including selling an expensive 61 Eldo molding off a car that he had already sold to someone else
He complains about having to take parts to a store to have them packaged and shipped and the buyers dont like the price they are charged
Dale finally bought a scale to weigh the parts
Dale is a used car salesman and has sold hundreds of cars but we know of at least one buyer who hates his guts as Dale told us all about it
Dale has made money on Chevys and other cars but really wants a 59 or 60 Eldorado
Dale seems to be in it for the almight dollar but whines that he really wants to own this car
Recently he decided that he would take apart some extra speedometers have the housings rechromed, put them back together and sell them as rebuilt but they probably wouldnt be accurate
At some point he had a medical problem or injury that he got a settlement but he wasted his money on this car and then later was going to lose his house
Dale cant figure out why no one has sympathy for his problems that he created for himself
That is all way too much info that any of us needed to know.