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Found in Montana Wilderness

Started by Roger H, August 09, 2009, 08:17:38 PM

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Roger H

I ran across this while on a canoe trip in Montana.  Cool pictures of  unknown year or model.  Any good guesses?
Roger Hundtoft
1936 Fleetwood 8509
Lynnwood Wa

Otto Skorzeny

#1
Not a guess. It's a 1936 Chevrolet.

Missing it's hood ornament and grill insignia. That's what the little square hole in the center vertical bar is for (just above the wheat tuft)
fward

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kelly

Greatfully, it looks like many parts have been salvaged, whatever the vintage... late thirties?
Kelly Martin
Kelly Martin
1957 Fleetwood 75
2008 DTS

homeonprunehill

08-09-09
The data stilll looks ledible. I'not sure if it a '37 Plymouth or not. BTW, where in MT did you find this guy? I use to live in  GT. FALLS. for about 15 years.  JIM
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Otto Skorzeny

#4
Sorry Prune, it's not a '37 Plymouth.

The center bar on the Plymouth grill is painted body color with chrome edges, not solid chrome like the Chevy. It's also wider / V-shaped at the top of the grill where the hood ornament wraps over the top of the hood and down the front of the grill. The Chevy's ornament stays on the hood.

Also notice that the Plymouth has a one piece windshield. The car in the field has a divided windshield.

Count the number of bars in the grill. There are 16 on each side of the one in the field. There are 16 on each side of the '36 Chevy.

There are only 13 on the Plymouth.

If you enlarge the photo you can see the seam where the fenders join the body. Notice that the Plymouth fenders attach before the fender line reaches the crease where it meets the body line. The car in the field, like the Chevy in the photo below, has fenders that join the body at the crease between the body line and fender line.

It's a '36 Chevy, trust me.
fward

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Steve Passmore

As Otto says, that's a GM body or I'm not a day over 50
Steve

Present
1937 60 convertible coupe
1941 62 convertible coupe
1941 62 coupe

Previous
1936 70 Sport coupe
1937 85 series V12 sedan
1938 60 coupe
1938 50 coupe
1939 60S
1940 62 coupe
1941 62 convertible coupe x2
1941 61 coupe
1941 61 sedan x2
1941 62 sedan x2
1947 62 sedan
1959 62 coupe

Doug Houston

No more kiddin' around about it; Otto named it right on the nose. The radiator ornament is still there. It's the standard one that came with the car. They had a sort of flying goddess thing as an accessory.

My mom had a '36 Chevy Master 2 door. Some of those bodies had wood in them, but this one looks as though it might be all metal. I have a soft spot in my head for '36 Chevys.

In 1939, we drove mom's Chevy to Yellowstone and back, with no problems. The route did take us through Montana, as we entered Y'stone at Cooke City.

Some day, some guy may come along, haul that hulk home, and restore it! It looks like the body is reasonably rust free.
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38-9039
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41-6227D
41-6019SF
41-6229D
41-6267D
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Roger H

I found this while canoeing down the missouri river.  It along with an old 50 vintage ford and a early 30's pickup were once used  at a now abandoned power plant,  only accessable by barge.  Thanks for the input,
Roger Hundtoft
1936 Fleetwood 8509
Lynnwood Wa

Steve Passmore

What happens in your country when someone wants to save an old car like this? Here we don't have any land that people can just dump a car on, every scrap of ground is owned by someone and if a car were to be left there it would be removed by the county, if its on private land it belongs to someone, if you remove it, its stealing, even if you cant find the owner.
You have such vast open spaces with thousands of these abandoned wreaks, can you just stroll in there and take it??
Steve

Present
1937 60 convertible coupe
1941 62 convertible coupe
1941 62 coupe

Previous
1936 70 Sport coupe
1937 85 series V12 sedan
1938 60 coupe
1938 50 coupe
1939 60S
1940 62 coupe
1941 62 convertible coupe x2
1941 61 coupe
1941 61 sedan x2
1941 62 sedan x2
1947 62 sedan
1959 62 coupe

Otto Skorzeny

In crowded urban and some sub-urban areas, the county will remove junk cars or force you to remove it if it's an eyesore, etc.  Really though, it all depends on the city, county, state, etc. Every jusrisdiction has different laws.

If it's not visible to anyone, you can pretty much do whatever you want on your own property.

This one looks like it's in someones field. I imagine they would sell it to you or give it to you if you asked.

Other places out west (in abandoned towns for example) you can probably just roll in and pick up what you want as long as the property isn't posted or anything.

Technically that might be stealing but who's going to say anything about a rusty hulk 500 miles from nowhere?
fward

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Steve Passmore

Quote from: Otto Skorzeny on August 12, 2009, 07:00:37 PM

If it's not visible to anyone, you can pretty much do whatever you want on your own property.



Didn't I read somewhere that some states film hidden areas from the air to get junk cars removed as part of their clear up campaign?
Steve

Present
1937 60 convertible coupe
1941 62 convertible coupe
1941 62 coupe

Previous
1936 70 Sport coupe
1937 85 series V12 sedan
1938 60 coupe
1938 50 coupe
1939 60S
1940 62 coupe
1941 62 convertible coupe x2
1941 61 coupe
1941 61 sedan x2
1941 62 sedan x2
1947 62 sedan
1959 62 coupe

Otto Skorzeny

I've never heard of such a thing. How could they tell from the air what vehicles are junk and which ones are licensed and roadworthy?

Most state and local governments only act on such matters when they get a complaint from a busy-body neighbor. They aren't generally engaged in actively looking for junk cars.
fward

Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for YOURSELF

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Steve Passmore

I'm sure I read something in Hemmings motor news many years ago Otto when the big pollution debate was raging, the plan was to spot them from the air then investigate from the ground and get them removed,  but maybe it was just someone scare mongering?    Glad its not so.
Steve

Present
1937 60 convertible coupe
1941 62 convertible coupe
1941 62 coupe

Previous
1936 70 Sport coupe
1937 85 series V12 sedan
1938 60 coupe
1938 50 coupe
1939 60S
1940 62 coupe
1941 62 convertible coupe x2
1941 61 coupe
1941 61 sedan x2
1941 62 sedan x2
1947 62 sedan
1959 62 coupe

Eric S. Maypother #15104

Quote from: Steve Passmore CLC 22373 on August 13, 2009, 06:11:00 PM
I'm sure I read something in Hemmings motor news many years ago Otto when the big pollution debate was raging, the plan was to spot them from the air then investigate from the ground and get them removed,  but maybe it was just someone scare mongering?    Glad its not so.

Actually it wouldn't surprise me, they would fly around using fuel and causing more pollution than the junk car just sitting their. Your tax dollars at work.
Eric :)
1990 Cadillac Brougham