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Started by Jeff Hansen, May 15, 2010, 06:57:38 PM

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Misfit

I think Jeff is referring to the other stats that you can usually pull up. Top 10 posters, Top 10 on line the most time, Top 10 topic starters, etc... You know, the stuff the average guy never looks at.

Fins

Jeff Hansen

ST,

Good questions.  I'll try to answer them.

QuoteWhy would you do that? It makes no sense.

Some folks don't quite know how to work with the quoted reply feature - to the point where responses were being made inside of quotes which made the thread difficult to read at times.  When there are photos embedded in the quotes, that makes the quotes even longer.  We as moderators decided a while back that eliminating the reply with quote feature would make things easier to follow.  I don't expect everyone would prefer that, but that's what we did.

QuoteCan you not just set it to disallow the bots?

Turning of the search, especially for guests means even less people using it and asking questions that have been answered multiple times.

Not sure how the statistics was an issue either. And what stats did you turn off?
I still see my posts per day, and total time logged in, and the stats page comes up.

There is no setting to just turn off the search to bots - when a request is made, there is little to be able to discern a post from a human to a post from a bot.  That is why we did the visual verification thing when guests post.  I am working on code to enable the search for guests so they have to do visual verification when they make the search request.  When I have that perfected, I'll enable it.

With regard to statistics, John is correct in that I am referring to the 'View other stats' link on the home page to view the "Top 10 Posters", etc.  That is very CPU intensive and it has been disabled to ensure resources are used elsewhere.  Posts per user, time logged in, etc. are not affected by this and you will continue to see those statistics.

HTH,
Jeff
Jeff Hansen
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STDog

Quote from: Jeff Hansen on May 22, 2010, 02:47:40 PM
Some folks don't quite know how to work with the quoted reply feature - to the point where responses were being made inside of quotes which made the thread difficult to read at times.  When there are photos embedded in the quotes, that makes the quotes even longer

I see. Guess my decades on the net make these things seem like second nature.

Back in the days of USENET and mailing lists, incorrect quoting and top posting would get you reamed by the admins and the other users.

I see that in the post window the "Insert quote" link does work.

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There is no setting to just turn off the search to bots

So they aren't adhering to the robots.txt directives?
http://www.searchtools.com/robots/robots-txt.html


FWIW, I check the top level file, http://www.cadillaclasalleclub.org/robots.txt
and the current forum is not disallowed. Looks like an old one was but the file was not updated for SMF.

Misfit

Just when I think I'm starting to get some of the stuff, you guys throw out a new one at me.  :D

Fins

STDog

Quote from: John Serio #22631 on May 22, 2010, 06:32:04 PM
Just when I think I'm starting to get some of the stuff, you guys throw out a new one at me.

We have to go slow. Don't want to overwhelm you.

The Tassie Devil(le)

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G'day Thomas,

If it was possible to be able to only stop the "Bots" and "Spammers" then the world would be a better place.

Bruce. >:D
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Jeff Hansen

ST,

Thanks for showing me that my robots file was out of date.   :)  It has been updated.  Glad someone is looking out for me!

However, even with that, I doubt a bot that is going around dropping spam and porn on boards is going to adhere to a robots file!   ;)

Yes, the insert quote button works, but I don't believe many people use it.  I believe more people use the 'reply with quote' button simply because its there.

Thanks!
Jeff
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1942 7533 Imperial Sedan

STDog

Quote from: Jeff Hansen on May 22, 2010, 08:09:44 PM
However, even with that, I doubt a bot that is going around dropping spam and porn on boards is going to adhere to a robots file!   ;)

Haven't see bots that drop spam. Of course I missed all the fun recently.

Anyway it might help on the server load.


As for spammers, Bruce,
nothing will stop them. Just try to keep them at bay and block any IP addresses you can.
Some good lists out there to start with. Then it's just keeping up with them. Usually you can block a large range based on one spammer.
Some day they will run out of IP addresses to use (then we move to ipV6 and start all over).

tony m

Jeff,

Thanks for the Forum!

Tony M.