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Hearing noise after fresh engine start-up

Started by Charlie Petty, August 13, 2010, 10:28:13 PM

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Charlie Petty

Well, engine is not totally fresh; valve job done, honed and re-ringed.  Shop told me new parts were not needed for the heads, as everything was in good shape with low wear.  

I am hearing a metallic noise that sounds like it is in the valve train on the right side of engine.  

While setting the timing, the noise got better as I advanced timing toward 5 deg. BTDC.  In other words, the more retarded the timing, the worse the noise.  

I don't hear it if I bring the engine speed up gradually, but do hear it if I blip the throttle, and I hear it while driving under mild acceleration.  

I am hoping it is an exhaust leak, which can sound very metallic.  If not, what are likely culprits based on the sypmtoms?  

Thanks much in advance

TJ Hopland

What year engine?  If its not hydraulic lifters you may need to recheck the valve adjustment.

An exhaust leak will usually change as things heat up.
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Otto Skorzeny

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Roger Zimmermann

I may have had the same. The center gasket on the RH exhaust manifold was installed upside down on my car (they are not symetrical) and I had a terrific noise, especially when driving along a wall. A new gasket, positionned correctly, did wonder.
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Charlie Petty

It is a '56.

I did not keep track of the lifters and rocker shafts, so they are all mixed up from original-could that cause it? 

I replaced a few pushrods- I wonder one is in upside down? 

I'll check into the exhaust gasket.  Thanks for the help so far. 

Roger Zimmermann

It's no good to mix such parts. The result is not noise, but quicker wear. If you have an upside down push rod, I don't know if it can generate noise, but it's not good either!

Roger
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Otto Skorzeny

Lifters should never ever be moved from their original positions and yes that could be the source of your noise.
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Charlie Petty

Quote from: Roger Zimmermann #21015 on August 14, 2010, 10:01:06 AM
I may have had the same. The center gasket on the RH exhaust manifold was installed upside down on my car (they are not symetrical) and I had a terrific noise, especially when driving along a wall. A new gasket, positionned correctly, did wonder.

Roger- You are exactly right.  That was the problem.  Thanks! 

Otto Skorzeny

Excellent! It's great when a problem is easily fixed and not serious.
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Roger Zimmermann

Roger- You are exactly right.  That was the problem.  Thanks!
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Roger
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