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Kris Price

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1938 Starter Solenoid
« on: September 21, 2010, 09:55:04 AM »
Does anyone know where i can purchase a starter solenoid for a 1938 4 door coupe.

Offline Steve Passmore

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Re: 1938 Starter Solenoid
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2010, 06:55:09 PM »
Its the same solinoid on all GM cars from 37 to 47
Steve

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Kris Price

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Re: 1938 Starter Solenoid
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2010, 07:14:00 PM »
So would i be right to assume that its the same starter?

Kris Price

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Re: 1938 Starter Solenoid
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2010, 12:51:53 AM »
So...... Do you know where to get one? V8

Offline Bob Hoffmann CLC#96

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Re: 1938 Starter Solenoid
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2010, 12:55:40 AM »
I may have a used one. How do you know yours is bad?  Have you had it checked by a shop that is familiar with those starters?   Bob
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Offline Steve Passmore

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Re: 1938 Starter Solenoid
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2010, 03:49:02 AM »
Not the same starter Kris on all these different GM cars, as mentioned, the drive housing on the end is different between the different makes depending on where the starter is located in relation to the flywheel,  but the solenoid on Buick and Cadillac are the same regardless of transmission 37 through 47.  Most solenoid problems are caused by the points being dirty or burnt out but it looks like Bob is able to help you out here if a used one is OK.
Steve

Present
1937 60 convertible coupe
1941 62 convertible coupe
1941 62 coupe

Previous
1936 70 Sport coupe
1937 85 series V12 sedan
1938 60 coupe
1938 50 coupe
1939 60S
1940 62 coupe
1941 62 convertible coupe x2
1941 61 coupe
1941 61 sedan x2
1941 62 sedan x2
1947 62 sedan
1959 62 coupe

Kris Price

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Re: 1938 Starter Solenoid
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2010, 01:00:07 PM »
I am not too familiar. I have to manually engage the solenoid. Unless its just not getting enough power. Corroded cables or something.

Offline Steve Passmore

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Re: 1938 Starter Solenoid
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2010, 01:14:53 PM »
You need to check if the power is getting to the solenoid from the start button and if it has a ground, Can you start the car by connecting the solenoid contacts? if so the points are dirty or burnt, if you cannot, then theres a break in the power somewhere. What do you mean when you say you manually engage it?
Steve

Present
1937 60 convertible coupe
1941 62 convertible coupe
1941 62 coupe

Previous
1936 70 Sport coupe
1937 85 series V12 sedan
1938 60 coupe
1938 50 coupe
1939 60S
1940 62 coupe
1941 62 convertible coupe x2
1941 61 coupe
1941 61 sedan x2
1941 62 sedan x2
1947 62 sedan
1959 62 coupe

Kris Price

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Re: 1938 Starter Solenoid
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2010, 11:53:49 AM »
So i can manually push the spring in on the soledoid and contact the starter and solenoid and get it to start. I lubed the spring and freed up the solenoid a little. It seems that the solenoid is engaging but the starter is not turning the engine over very fast. Im not sure if its a weak starter or if there is not an effecient amount of power making it to the starter. I think a good start is to replace all the wiring in the ignition system?

Offline 35-709

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Re: 1938 Starter Solenoid
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2010, 01:19:16 PM »
Before you just shotgun money at it, if your battery is known to be good then the best place to start, in my opinion, is to check every wire connection for cleanliness and tightness starting at the battery.  With particular attention to all of the ground connections.    Check the wires themselves also for any indication of internal corrosion.  As a check you might run a heavy wire with alligator clips on the ends (like a jumper cable) directly from the battery ground terminal (should be the positive terminal in your case) to a mounting bolt on the starter or the starter case itself.  If that substantially improves your cranking speed then it is a ground problem somewhere.  6 volt systems especially need good grounds.  If the engine is cranking at all I would not think it is a solenoid problem.
Geoff N.
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Kris Price

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Re: 1938 Starter Solenoid
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2010, 01:57:33 PM »
Thanks Geoff. I will give that a try and see what happens.

 

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