Author Topic: 39 LaSalle Build Records?  (Read 1768 times)

Offline revgawright

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39 LaSalle Build Records?
« on: March 24, 2012, 06:13:55 PM »
I just received the "Build Records" from the GM Media Archive, and am disappointed to say the least. Here is a scan of the sheet:

https://f1.ctsmemberconnect.net/garoupdb/O-0000000932/G-0000025738/docs/Root/39LASinvoice.pdf

How can this be call a build record? It looks like a dealer invoice, not build records to me. Did I get ripped off? This doesn't give me any more information than I can get from the plaque on my car, seen here:

https://f1.ctsmemberconnect.net/garoupdb/O-0000000932/G-0000025738/docs/Root/39LASplate.jpg

The only other thing included in the mailing was two xeroxed pages from the 2007 CLC directory explaining how to "decode" the plate. Of course, as a CLC member I already had access to this. This surely isn't worth fifty hard earned bucks! It doesn't even give the date of manufacture. This is a build sheet, is it? Anyone have any thoughts? I doubt they will give me a refund. P.T. Barnum was right when he said "There's a sucker born every minute."
G. A. Wright
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Offline Steve Passmore

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Re: 39 LaSalle Build Records?
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2012, 06:27:16 PM »
I dont think your the only one who doesn't think its value for money.
Steve

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Offline C.R. Patton II

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Re: 39 LaSalle Build Records?
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2012, 10:37:47 PM »

Hello Gary

I understand how you feel.

The invoice you received is a very important document to validate the originality of your vehicle. You should include it in your portfolio or display at exhibitions and shows. I would also suggest that you acquire the LaSalle Companion Car book as a research text to decoding your document , and learning the history of our brand.

If I may be of service please do not hesitate to inquire.
« Last Edit: March 25, 2012, 11:34:08 PM by C.R. Patton II »
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Offline Martin Michaels

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Re: 39 LaSalle Build Records?
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2012, 04:47:04 AM »
Hi Gary, I've been waiting for my build sheet for about 3 months now, they keep saying were busy it should be there in 2 weeks. I'm not sure if I am getting more by getting nothing from Allied Vaughn. I'll be waiting but I won't hold my breath. Marty
Marty  CLC#26833
1947 6269  Cavern Green
1980 CDV D Elegance  White

Offline Richardonly

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Re: 39 LaSalle Build Records?
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2012, 11:55:25 AM »
Gentlmen,

I posted this same question about acquireing a build sheet and/or dealer invoice several months ago.  I saw a nice one at a NERCLC meet last summer on a 1947 limo which peaked my interest in the item.

The answers I received in the Forum was NOT to buy it as it was a photocopy of poor quality and little information.  Certainly not something you would want to display on your fine automobile.

I followed their advice and did NOT buy it.

With no disrespect intended, I would not want what I saw in the item you received.  And certainly not worth $50.00.

If it were me, I would try to get my money back as they knew they were selling you something of little value.  What did the ad read?  Could this be of interest to the Federal Government as an ad intended to defraud?

You are not the only one who is unhappy with their product.  If I can find my old blog, I shall attach the link.

Richard
1948 Cadillac Fleetwood 60S
1995 Lincoln Towncar, Signature Series
1995 Jaguar XJ6
2001 Chrysler Sebring Convertible
1986 Yamaha 700 Maxim X motorcycle

Offline Richardonly

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Re: 39 LaSalle Build Records?
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2012, 12:02:33 PM »
This was my post and answers to it.  It also included some people and companies that do a "good" job of what you "may" be looking for.

http://www.cadillaclasalleclub.org/forum/index.php?topic=117168.msg193377#msg193377
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1995 Lincoln Towncar, Signature Series
1995 Jaguar XJ6
2001 Chrysler Sebring Convertible
1986 Yamaha 700 Maxim X motorcycle

Offline revgawright

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Re: 39 LaSalle Build Records?
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2012, 05:37:41 PM »
Hi Gary, I've been waiting for my build sheet for about 3 months now... Marty

Marty,

Something doesn't seem right here. I didn't want to send my credit card info. on-line, so I snail-mailed a check on March 3 and received the so-called build sheet yesterday (March 24). You certainly should have received something by now. Sounds like they are stringing you along. That's a 3 week turn around. Three months sounds fishy. 

GAW
G. A. Wright
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Offline Bob Hoffmann CLC#96

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Re: 39 LaSalle Build Records?
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2012, 07:20:44 PM »
Mr. Wright & others,
I agree that $50 is too much for the document. I also agree that it is an important document on the history of a car.
However, that document is NOT a build sheet, it's an invoice. I've spent lots of time on this board trying to get people to STOP calling it a build sheet. A build sheet is a document you get on a 67 Corvette or like high dollar car to prove its provanance. There is a lot of information on that invoice. Enjoy it for what it is. I am very grateful to Ansel Sackett for having the foresight to preserve all those documents.
HTH, Bob
« Last Edit: March 25, 2012, 08:41:08 PM by Bob Hoffmann CLC#96 »
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Offline Richardonly

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Re: 39 LaSalle Build Records?
« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2012, 09:34:45 AM »
Bob,

If this is NOT a build sheet but is "suppose' to be a dealer invoice, it would have been nice to see what dealer it was shipped to.

Were those the retail prices for a 1939?  I do not know, so I am curious about that.

The plate on Revcawright's car pretty much said the same thing and at least that is metal.  :)

Thank you, Richard
1948 Cadillac Fleetwood 60S
1995 Lincoln Towncar, Signature Series
1995 Jaguar XJ6
2001 Chrysler Sebring Convertible
1986 Yamaha 700 Maxim X motorcycle

Offline Tito Sobrinho

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Re: 39 LaSalle Build Records?
« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2012, 08:48:47 PM »
During the 1989 CLC Grand National in Boston (Newton) I had the opportunity to meet Ansel Sackett. I just gave him my car VIN and year.
Twenty days later, I received the invoice free of charge from him and I discovered that my car was delivered on 12/16/1948 by train to Cincinnati, Ohio.
What a great gentleman he was!
Tito S.

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Offline Bob Hoffmann CLC#96

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Re: 39 LaSalle Build Records?
« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2012, 09:54:47 PM »
Richard,
 It does say where it was shipped. Cadillac Motor Car, NY branch. They were a distributor & may have then shipped it to one of the dealers in their territory. That's how the system worked at the time.
The prices shown are dealer cost. I'm not sure what the selling price was. The invoice would help Mr. Wright if he wondered if his car came with running boards because his data plate wouldn't show that.
HTH, Bob
1968 Eldorado slick top ,white/red interior
2015 Holden Ute HSV Maloo red/black interior.
             
Too much fun is more than you can have.

Offline Richardonly

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Re: 39 LaSalle Build Records?
« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2012, 09:53:34 AM »
Bob, 

Thank you for the information on where it was shipped to, although the retail dealer certainly would be nice, and that the prices listed were for the distributor or dealer and NOT the retail price.
The more I participate in the forum, the more I learn.
As for paying $50.00 to find out if the car was built with running boards, my opinion is this; If there is none on the car at present, the metal plate would not disprove it.
If the braces for them remained, or the running boards in their entirety remained, that would answer that question EXCEPT if they were installed at the factory.
Myself, I would not pay $50.00 to find that out.  I only wanted the dealer invoice for the fun of it as my car, although in beautiful condition, and pretty much unrestored, has had many modifications over the years that I would prefer to keep rather than bringing it back to factory fresh. 
I refer to more modern spark plug wires, an electric fuel pump, a non factory battery and perhaps tires which may be the incorrect brand.

OK, I am getting long winded as I tend to do when I speak of my car, which I waited 20 years to buy, so I shall once again THANK YOU and wish you many happy, enjoyable miles, Richard
1948 Cadillac Fleetwood 60S
1995 Lincoln Towncar, Signature Series
1995 Jaguar XJ6
2001 Chrysler Sebring Convertible
1986 Yamaha 700 Maxim X motorcycle

Offline revgawright

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Re: 39 LaSalle Build Records?
« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2012, 11:23:23 PM »
From Cadillac Motor Car, NY branch I assume that it was shipped to "Woodward Sales and Service." I have no idea where in New York that would have been, but I believe that the dealer sticker on my car is from the original dealer. Here's another scan of the trunk with the dealer info:

https://f1.ctsmemberconnect.net/garoupdb/O-0000000932/G-0000025738/docs/Root/DSCN9503.jpg

I've googled this name, and nothing comes up. I doubt that it is still in existence. Anyone from NY heard of it?

GAW

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Offline Martin Michaels

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Re: 39 LaSalle Build Records?
« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2012, 03:49:01 AM »
Gary, I talked to the people at Allied Vaughn she told me she does not know why I never received my papers she said she would mail them out right then. I will post what I received asap. I sent my 50.00 in on 12/30/2011
    Marty
Marty  CLC#26833
1947 6269  Cavern Green
1980 CDV D Elegance  White

 

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