Author Topic: Transmission rear Oil Seal?  (Read 1899 times)

Offline Herbie

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  • Name: T Johns
Transmission rear Oil Seal?
« on: November 23, 2013, 09:50:47 PM »
 :( Where can I get a rear (output) oil seal for my 1936 LaSalle 3 speed?

Offline sjocad

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  • Cadman from Norway
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  • Name: Svein Sjoblom
Re: Transmission rear Oil Seal?
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2013, 01:17:43 AM »
KANTER  ,in NJ
svein sjoblom,CLC # 12214.

1937 Lasalle opera coupe series 50.

Offline Steve Passmore

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  • Name: Steve Passmore - Sadly Deceased
Re: Transmission rear Oil Seal?
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2013, 04:10:47 AM »
I cant find any mention of transmission seals in Kaners catalog Svien, remember, the 36 is a straight 8 and not the same as yours.  The trans is different also.
My first action would be to remove the seal Herbie and take it to your nearest seal and bearing suppliers. Seals are made to a list of sizes and there will be a modern application that fits I'm sure.  On 37 models the seal is a really deep one but can be replaced using two thinner ones to great effect.
Steve

Present
1937 60 convertible coupe
1941 62 convertible coupe
1941 62 coupe

Previous
1936 70 Sport coupe
1937 85 series V12 sedan
1938 60 coupe
1938 50 coupe
1939 60S
1940 62 coupe
1941 62 convertible coupe x2
1941 61 coupe
1941 61 sedan x2
1941 62 sedan x2
1947 62 sedan
1959 62 coupe

Offline Jay Friedman

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Re: Transmission rear Oil Seal?
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2013, 12:53:37 PM »
Another possibility is Olcar Bearings and Seals, Southern Pines NC, phone: 910-693-3324

I've dealt with this firm quite a bit and have always been totally satisfied.
1949 Cadillac 6107 Club Coupe
1932 Ford V8 Phaeton (restored, not a rod).  Sold
Decatur, Georgia
CLC # 3210, since 1984
"If it won't work, get a bigger hammer."

Offline Steve Passmore

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Re: Transmission rear Oil Seal?
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2013, 02:41:25 PM »
Another possibility is Olcar Bearings and Seals, Southern Pines NC, phone: 910-693-3324

I've dealt with this firm quite a bit and have always been totally satisfied.

I'll second that, George Bachleada is your top man at Olcar. no one knows more about bearings and seals than George.
Steve

Present
1937 60 convertible coupe
1941 62 convertible coupe
1941 62 coupe

Previous
1936 70 Sport coupe
1937 85 series V12 sedan
1938 60 coupe
1938 50 coupe
1939 60S
1940 62 coupe
1941 62 convertible coupe x2
1941 61 coupe
1941 61 sedan x2
1941 62 sedan x2
1947 62 sedan
1959 62 coupe

Offline sjocad

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  • Cadman from Norway
  • CLC Number: 12214
  • Name: Svein Sjoblom
Re: Transmission rear Oil Seal?
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2013, 11:52:58 PM »
I did the same Steve P-
A shop here in Town,can make new seals.




37 Lasalle coupe.
76 Fleetwood
svein sjoblom,CLC # 12214.

1937 Lasalle opera coupe series 50.

Offline Glen

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  • Name: Glen Houlton
Re: Transmission rear Oil Seal?
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2013, 12:05:56 AM »
Many times you can go to a local bearing shop and they will be able to find a new seal using the numbers off the old seal. 
Glen Houlton CLC #727 
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Offline Herbie

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  • Name: T Johns
Re: Transmission rear Oil Seal?
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2013, 12:14:54 PM »
There are no numbers on the seal. I've tried all the seal places to no avail. Northwest Transmission advised you cannot find them. They want to bore out the housing and grind the yoke to fit another bearing. The size if at housing (OD) 2.935" X 1/4" wide X 2.234" ID. HELP!

Offline Herbie

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  • Name: T Johns
Re: Transmission rear Oil Seal?
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2013, 10:13:31 PM »
Reply from Kanter just in, "NO GOT!"

Offline Steve Passmore

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  • Name: Steve Passmore - Sadly Deceased
Re: Transmission rear Oil Seal?
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2013, 02:47:41 AM »
Give  George Bachleada  a ring at Olcar Bearings.
Steve

Present
1937 60 convertible coupe
1941 62 convertible coupe
1941 62 coupe

Previous
1936 70 Sport coupe
1937 85 series V12 sedan
1938 60 coupe
1938 50 coupe
1939 60S
1940 62 coupe
1941 62 convertible coupe x2
1941 61 coupe
1941 61 sedan x2
1941 62 sedan x2
1947 62 sedan
1959 62 coupe

Offline Herbie

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  • Name: T Johns
Re: Transmission rear Oil Seal?
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2013, 10:09:35 AM »
George at Olcar tried but no dice or seal.

Still stumped! :-\

Offline Glen

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Re: Transmission rear Oil Seal?
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2013, 12:15:49 AM »
I don’t know if you have the factory part number but I will pass this on to you in case it would help.  The 1935 and 1936 LaSalles (series 50) used the same seal.  Cadillac part number is 141 5317.  If someone has a cross reference to a manufacture’s number you maybe able to track one down. 

I hope this helps.   
Glen Houlton CLC #727 
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Offline Herbie

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  • Name: T Johns
Re: Transmission rear Oil Seal?
« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2013, 12:10:07 PM »
The word from George at Olcar is, "We don't have it and no can get."

So I am going to try something radical.

I took the seal apart (very carefully) removing the old leather, found a local O-Ring supplier and tried two. The smaller OD of the two fit in the original seal's metal casing. After using some new Gear Oil specific sealer it is sitting in the car now curing. I know, O-Rings are not meant for rotary sealing but time will tell.

Otherwise the yoke and the rear housing will be going off to Northwest Transmission for some machine work to fit an available seal. Wish me luck.

 

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