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Transmission rear Oil Seal?

Started by Herbie, November 23, 2013, 09:50:47 PM

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Herbie

 :( Where can I get a rear (output) oil seal for my 1936 LaSalle 3 speed?

sjocad

svein sjoblom,CLC # 12214.

1937 Lasalle opera coupe series 50.

Steve Passmore

I cant find any mention of transmission seals in Kaners catalog Svien, remember, the 36 is a straight 8 and not the same as yours.  The trans is different also.
My first action would be to remove the seal Herbie and take it to your nearest seal and bearing suppliers. Seals are made to a list of sizes and there will be a modern application that fits I'm sure.  On 37 models the seal is a really deep one but can be replaced using two thinner ones to great effect.
Steve

Present
1937 60 convertible coupe
1941 62 convertible coupe
1941 62 coupe

Previous
1936 70 Sport coupe
1937 85 series V12 sedan
1938 60 coupe
1938 50 coupe
1939 60S
1940 62 coupe
1941 62 convertible coupe x2
1941 61 coupe
1941 61 sedan x2
1941 62 sedan x2
1947 62 sedan
1959 62 coupe

Jay Friedman

Another possibility is Olcar Bearings and Seals, Southern Pines NC, phone: 910-693-3324

I've dealt with this firm quite a bit and have always been totally satisfied.
1949 Cadillac 6107 Club Coupe
1932 Ford V8 Phaeton (restored, not a rod).  Sold
Decatur, Georgia
CLC # 3210, since 1984
"If it won't work, get a bigger hammer."

Steve Passmore

Quote from: Jay Friedman on November 24, 2013, 12:53:37 PM
Another possibility is Olcar Bearings and Seals, Southern Pines NC, phone: 910-693-3324

I've dealt with this firm quite a bit and have always been totally satisfied.

I'll second that, George Bachleada is your top man at Olcar. no one knows more about bearings and seals than George.
Steve

Present
1937 60 convertible coupe
1941 62 convertible coupe
1941 62 coupe

Previous
1936 70 Sport coupe
1937 85 series V12 sedan
1938 60 coupe
1938 50 coupe
1939 60S
1940 62 coupe
1941 62 convertible coupe x2
1941 61 coupe
1941 61 sedan x2
1941 62 sedan x2
1947 62 sedan
1959 62 coupe

sjocad

I did the same Steve P-
A shop here in Town,can make new seals.




37 Lasalle coupe.
76 Fleetwood
svein sjoblom,CLC # 12214.

1937 Lasalle opera coupe series 50.

Glen

Many times you can go to a local bearing shop and they will be able to find a new seal using the numbers off the old seal. 
Glen Houlton CLC #727 
CLCMRC benefactor #104

Herbie

There are no numbers on the seal. I've tried all the seal places to no avail. Northwest Transmission advised you cannot find them. They want to bore out the housing and grind the yoke to fit another bearing. The size if at housing (OD) 2.935" X 1/4" wide X 2.234" ID. HELP!

Herbie

Reply from Kanter just in, "NO GOT!"

Steve Passmore

Give  George Bachleada  a ring at Olcar Bearings.
Steve

Present
1937 60 convertible coupe
1941 62 convertible coupe
1941 62 coupe

Previous
1936 70 Sport coupe
1937 85 series V12 sedan
1938 60 coupe
1938 50 coupe
1939 60S
1940 62 coupe
1941 62 convertible coupe x2
1941 61 coupe
1941 61 sedan x2
1941 62 sedan x2
1947 62 sedan
1959 62 coupe

Herbie

George at Olcar tried but no dice or seal.

Still stumped! :-\

Glen

I don’t know if you have the factory part number but I will pass this on to you in case it would help.  The 1935 and 1936 LaSalles (series 50) used the same seal.  Cadillac part number is 141 5317.  If someone has a cross reference to a manufacture’s number you maybe able to track one down. 

I hope this helps.   
Glen Houlton CLC #727 
CLCMRC benefactor #104

Herbie

The word from George at Olcar is, "We don't have it and no can get."

So I am going to try something radical.

I took the seal apart (very carefully) removing the old leather, found a local O-Ring supplier and tried two. The smaller OD of the two fit in the original seal's metal casing. After using some new Gear Oil specific sealer it is sitting in the car now curing. I know, O-Rings are not meant for rotary sealing but time will tell.

Otherwise the yoke and the rear housing will be going off to Northwest Transmission for some machine work to fit an available seal. Wish me luck.