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Offline Lars Kneller 8246

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Heaviest Cadillac or LaSalle?
« on: April 22, 2014, 08:31:50 PM »
All, anyone know what the heaviest Cadillac or LaSalle ever made was (stock from the factory)? I need the info for my June President's message. Thanks!

Offline The Tassie Devil(le)

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Re: Heaviest Cadillac or LaSalle?
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2014, 08:44:19 PM »
Does this include the Presidential Limousines?

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Re: Heaviest Cadillac or LaSalle?
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2014, 08:57:56 PM »
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Offline Lars Kneller 8246

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Re: Heaviest Cadillac or LaSalle?
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2014, 09:00:19 PM »
No, from the factory that anyone could buy. I think the current limousine just looks like a Cadillac, but is a truck underneath.

Offline russ austin

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Re: Heaviest Cadillac or LaSalle?
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2014, 09:05:24 PM »
The Limo did come from the factory.  The CC was shipped as a rolling chassis, with a front clip only. The coach maker built the car.
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Offline Lars Kneller 8246

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Re: Heaviest Cadillac or LaSalle?
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2014, 09:20:45 PM »
Factory Cadillac limo is ok. The current Presidential limo isn't really a Cadillac, just looks like one.

Offline C.R. Patton II

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Re: Heaviest Cadillac or LaSalle?
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2014, 09:27:34 PM »


Hello Lars

Sounds like you are creating an interesting article.  I wish it was a LaSalle, we need the ink.

My guess would be one of the V-16's or a 75 Series vehicle. 
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Offline russ austin

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Re: Heaviest Cadillac or LaSalle?
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2014, 10:01:41 PM »
Just curious. Do you (the general populace) consider the CC a Cadillac? 
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Offline Alan Harris CLC#1513

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Re: Heaviest Cadillac or LaSalle?
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2014, 11:00:17 PM »
If I had to guess, I would guess the Fleetwood 75 of about 1975 or 1976 were the heaviest production models. They were the last ones before the 1977 downsize and had the federal bumpers and door rails.

Somebody here can probably confirm their weight. Most of the older cars don't weigh as much as they appear to weigh.

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Re: Heaviest Cadillac or LaSalle?
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2014, 12:22:31 AM »
Was Al Capone's  bullet proof car a factory special order or a modification after delivery?
« Last Edit: April 23, 2014, 12:24:51 AM by gary griffin »
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Offline Eric DeVirgilis CLC# 8621

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Re: Heaviest Cadillac or LaSalle?
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2014, 09:09:13 AM »
At 5,889 lbs, I would also say 75-76 Series 75 Limousine was the heaviest production Cadillac model ever made.

I don't believe any regular production Sixteens topped that figure. 
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Offline Eric DeVirgilis CLC# 8621

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Re: Heaviest Cadillac or LaSalle?
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2014, 09:43:36 AM »
Figures from Wiki (for what it may be worth).

Appears they also give the honor to Cadillac Limousine of the mid '70s.

I have no idea what unit of weight "mm" refers to:

Current production car - 6,091 mm (239.8 in) - Rolls-Royce Phantom EWB

Production car - 6,405 mm (252.2 in) - 1973-76 (for the 1974-76 model years) Cadillac Series 75

Production convertible - 6,045–6,096 mm (238.0–240.0 in) (29 produced) - 1933-37 (for the 1934-37 model years) Cadillac V-16

Production coupe - 6,045–6,096 mm (238.0–240.0 in) (20 produced) - 1933-37 (for the 1934-37 model years) Cadillac V-16

Production station wagon - 5,888 mm (231.8 in) 1974-76 (for the 1975-76 model years) Buick Estate

Limited production convertible - 6,401 mm (252.0 in) - 1932 Bugatti Royale Weinberger

Limited production coupe - 6,401 mm (252.0 in) - 1931 Bugatti Royale Kellner

Pickup Truck - 6,680 mm (263.0 in) - Ford F-250/F-350 crew cab long bed

SUV - 5,758 mm (226.7 in) - Ford Excursion

Van - 7,361 mm (289.8 in) Freightliner/Mercedes-Benz Sprinter
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Re: Heaviest Cadillac or LaSalle?
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2014, 10:02:15 AM »
Eric, the MM is the length of the car in Millimeters.

Roy

Example =  6405 mm  =   252.2 inches

Re: Heaviest Cadillac or LaSalle?
« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2014, 10:11:00 AM »
The heaviest listing I see is a 1936 5725,LB TWIN CAB.7 passanger weighing in at  6390 lbs.
  Many many cars in the 5500 hundred range. Big 74-75 limos at about 5900 or so.Art

My vote goes for this model. From the database, Cadillac built 9 style 5825's from 1934 to 1937 (including the Marlene Dietrich V-16) and at 6390 lbs, was heavier than Town Broughams. You would think that on the longest wheelbase (154") and with a first generation V-16 engine, this Cadillac would be in running for "heaviest Cadillac ever produced".  Ross.

Offline Gene Beaird

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Re: Heaviest Cadillac or LaSalle?
« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2014, 10:55:49 AM »
What weight are you talking about?  Rolling off the assembly line, or full of fuel, passengers, etc?  The 2014 Escalade ESV 4X4 has a 6040 lb curb weight. 
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Offline Eric DeVirgilis CLC# 8621

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Re: Heaviest Cadillac or LaSalle?
« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2014, 11:33:54 AM »
What weight are you talking about?  Rolling off the assembly line, or full of fuel, passengers, etc?  The 2014 Escalade ESV 4X4 has a 6040 lb curb weight.

Curb weight, not GVWR which is the maximum weight capacity (including load). Curb weight is the unladen weight of the vehicle which does not include fuel or passengers.
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Re: Heaviest Cadillac or LaSalle?
« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2014, 08:15:42 AM »
I too was thinking the 76 Limo would have been up there.   I know a guy that has a bunch of Packards and those 30's ones sure look like they weigh a lot so I would think that some of the Cadillac's from the same era could also be very heavy.  I was in his shop one time where he just had a bare frame on stands and I could not budge it.   Some of the 50's cars look like they should be heavy but surprisingly they don't seem to be.     
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Offline Lars Kneller 8246

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Re: Heaviest Cadillac or LaSalle?
« Reply #17 on: April 24, 2014, 06:26:51 PM »
Thanks everyone, I am all set. Watch for my June and July columns.

Offline The Tassie Devil(le)

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Re: Heaviest Cadillac or LaSalle?
« Reply #18 on: April 24, 2014, 08:31:33 PM »
Trust the reading won't be too heavy. ;)

Bruce. >:D
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'70 Ranchero Squire (RHD)
'74 Chris Craft Gull Wing (SH)
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1935 Ford 3 Window Coupe
1936 Ford 5 Window Coupe
1937 Chevrolet Sports Coupe
1955 Chevrolet Convertible
1959 Ford Fairlane Ranch Wagon
1960 Cadillac CDV
1972 Cadillac Eldorado Coupe

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Re: Heaviest Cadillac or LaSalle?
« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2014, 08:48:09 PM »
I wish it was a LaSalle, we need the ink.

Hey Chuck, you'll get your wish with the May issue of The Self-Starter.
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