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1963 station wagon

Started by Mike Patla #23389, May 30, 2014, 06:51:16 PM

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Ralph Messina CLC 4937

Beautiful work. It did find a great home.
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1966 Eldorado-with a new caretaker  http://bit.ly/1OrxLoY
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jwwseville60

#41
Thanks!
Ill try to keep her in good shape.
I post a video when she's done....at 100mph.
BTW...the middle picture is my car in the 1970s. It was dark blue, then Firemist red, then Burgundy in 1986.

1960 Eldorado Seville, Copper, "IKE"
1961 CDV, gold, "Goldfinger"
1964 Eldorado, Turquoise, "Billy the Squid"
1963 De Ville Station Wagon Vista roof, silver blue, "Race Bannon"
1963 Fleetwood 60S, turquoise, "The Miami Special"
1959 Sedan Deville flat top, tan, "Jupiter-2"
1947 Caddy Sedanette 62, black, "Johnny Cash"
1970 ASC Fleetwood wagon, dark blue, "Iron Maiden"
Lifetime CLC

D.Smith

Quote from: jwwseville60 on October 27, 2021, 06:07:39 PM
The data tag says it was a 1963 deville 4-door originally.
They should have used a Brougham 60S!

I asked because I was curious to see the color & trim numbers.

Eric DeVirgilis CLC# 8621

Quote from: jwwseville60 on October 27, 2021, 06:07:39 PM
The data tag says it was a 1963 deville 4-door originally.
They should have used a Brougham 60S!

One guess is the the sleek appearance would be compromised due to the roofline & rear vent windows of the 60 Special.   
A Cadillac Motorcar is a Possession for which there is no Acceptable Substitute

jwwseville60

Im away from the car but Ill get a shot of the tag soon.
1960 Eldorado Seville, Copper, "IKE"
1961 CDV, gold, "Goldfinger"
1964 Eldorado, Turquoise, "Billy the Squid"
1963 De Ville Station Wagon Vista roof, silver blue, "Race Bannon"
1963 Fleetwood 60S, turquoise, "The Miami Special"
1959 Sedan Deville flat top, tan, "Jupiter-2"
1947 Caddy Sedanette 62, black, "Johnny Cash"
1970 ASC Fleetwood wagon, dark blue, "Iron Maiden"
Lifetime CLC

jwwseville60

Resto coming along well.

1960 Eldorado Seville, Copper, "IKE"
1961 CDV, gold, "Goldfinger"
1964 Eldorado, Turquoise, "Billy the Squid"
1963 De Ville Station Wagon Vista roof, silver blue, "Race Bannon"
1963 Fleetwood 60S, turquoise, "The Miami Special"
1959 Sedan Deville flat top, tan, "Jupiter-2"
1947 Caddy Sedanette 62, black, "Johnny Cash"
1970 ASC Fleetwood wagon, dark blue, "Iron Maiden"
Lifetime CLC

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Tim

CLC Member #30850

1959 Cadillac CDV "Shelley"
1964 Cadillac SDV "Rosalie"
1966 Oldsmobile Toronado "Sienna"

Past Cars

1937 LaSalle Cpe
1940 Chevrolet Cpe
1941 Ford 11Y
1954 Buick 48D
1955 Cadillac CDV
1955 Packard Clipper
1957 Cadillac Series 62
1962 VW Bug
1962 Dodge 880
1966 Mercury Montclair
1967 Buick Wildcat Convertible
1968 Chevy Chevelle SS
1968 Plymouth Barracuda
1977 Lincoln MKV

jwwseville60

Thanks!
Even with the parts slow down, we are proceeding well.
1960 Eldorado Seville, Copper, "IKE"
1961 CDV, gold, "Goldfinger"
1964 Eldorado, Turquoise, "Billy the Squid"
1963 De Ville Station Wagon Vista roof, silver blue, "Race Bannon"
1963 Fleetwood 60S, turquoise, "The Miami Special"
1959 Sedan Deville flat top, tan, "Jupiter-2"
1947 Caddy Sedanette 62, black, "Johnny Cash"
1970 ASC Fleetwood wagon, dark blue, "Iron Maiden"
Lifetime CLC

D.Smith


jwwseville60

Im visiting the car today or tomorrow.
Will advise.
1960 Eldorado Seville, Copper, "IKE"
1961 CDV, gold, "Goldfinger"
1964 Eldorado, Turquoise, "Billy the Squid"
1963 De Ville Station Wagon Vista roof, silver blue, "Race Bannon"
1963 Fleetwood 60S, turquoise, "The Miami Special"
1959 Sedan Deville flat top, tan, "Jupiter-2"
1947 Caddy Sedanette 62, black, "Johnny Cash"
1970 ASC Fleetwood wagon, dark blue, "Iron Maiden"
Lifetime CLC

jwwseville60

#50
Progress has been slow. Many little parts have yet to come back from repair shops, etc.
We have cut the hole for the rear AC system. Components by Dannhard Corp. (Ambulances and military vehicles). The best quality.

I have four 1963 chrome dash air vents for the rear output shelf which will be carpeted. Im trying to keep most things looking like its the original 1964 build.
Modern Busman fuse panel up front.
2 x Facet electrical fuel pumps. These are for light aircraft engines. Redundancy. Reliability.
All wiring is new and heavy-duty.

Im adding a secondary small 12v battery in the trunk area for extra power. (175 amp alternator). This will be for the AC fans in the rear.

Funny ol' world, eh? No one will sell us a non-kit Carpet roll that is GM factory-style. (We checked with everyone) Ive chosen dark blue German square weave carpet instead. A cool 1960s Porsche look. The entire rear of this car is custom, so there are no molded sets.
Rear bumper is on.
Roof glass is next.

1960 Eldorado Seville, Copper, "IKE"
1961 CDV, gold, "Goldfinger"
1964 Eldorado, Turquoise, "Billy the Squid"
1963 De Ville Station Wagon Vista roof, silver blue, "Race Bannon"
1963 Fleetwood 60S, turquoise, "The Miami Special"
1959 Sedan Deville flat top, tan, "Jupiter-2"
1947 Caddy Sedanette 62, black, "Johnny Cash"
1970 ASC Fleetwood wagon, dark blue, "Iron Maiden"
Lifetime CLC

D.Smith

Looks like it is coming along nicely

Scott Nellis

  Wow. That is one beautiful piece of machinery. You are definitely going above and beyond the call of duty on this Cadillac leaving no stone unturned. That wagon is lucky to have you as its caretaker. Many people wouldn't take the time to sort out all the little tedious details. Hats off. Really looking forward to seeing the finished product.
1957 Eureka Hearse
1965 Miller-Meteor Hearse
1968 Miller-Meteor Hearse
1968 Fleetwood Brougham
1970 Superior Hearse

jwwseville60

#53
Thanks everyone!

When I first bought the car in Cape Cod with a briefcase of cash money, I drove it all summer. Steered, braked and handled a bit dangerously! But Im an old pro race driver so I took it as a challenge. A week of wrenching and service made it OK for temporary use. If I had kept it the way I bought it and had an accident, it would have crumpled up like a rusty accordion...and probably with my grandkids in it.

The previous owners never kept it up....sad for a very special custom build.
They barely changed the oil or fluids. Never fixed anything either. Not correctly.
When I first bought it:

It leaked everywhere.
Bad driveshaft and U joints.
Leaky gunky radiator.
Needed full suspension and brake rebuild.
Cracking paint all over due to large amounts of crappy bondo used in the 70s. We think it had a couple of fender-benders, but no frame damage.
Floors were rusted out.
Door bottoms shot.
Windshield was cracked.
Bad paint job. Gouges and dents. Rust bubbles.
One .45 caliber bullet hole in right rear quarter covered up by bondo.
Top was rusted out all over.
Motor and tranny were very tired. It had a worn and incorrect timing chain. #8 cylinder had very low compression. Bad rings.
No heat or air. No radio, no wipers, no nuthin'.
Electricals all bad from mice. Splices by the ton. Few lights worked.
Carpet and leather were very tired.
Stank like wet dogs rolling in deer shit.
We stripped it down and found the entire rear panel was a mess of hammer marks and gobs of bondo. It had been rear-ended and "fixed" at one time on the VERY cheap.
Hells-bells, even the fins were out of whack!

I love 63 Caddies the best. To me they are the pinnacle of mid century balanced design. Just the perfect amount of fin. This one plucked at my heart. Tasteful. Radical. Jet age fantastical.
It needed everything. So its my once in a lifetime full custom Resto, full boogie deal. No compromises. No wheezy AC.
If any 63 deserved a full Resto it was this one. I wanted a torquey 429 and switch pitch T400 for better performance. Sue me. Best GM tranny of the classic era. LSD too.

Though custom, I want it to look like it was built for Harley Earl by Hess & Eisenhardt in 1964. Hopefully it will turn out that way.
Did I mention all the bad bondo?

1960 Eldorado Seville, Copper, "IKE"
1961 CDV, gold, "Goldfinger"
1964 Eldorado, Turquoise, "Billy the Squid"
1963 De Ville Station Wagon Vista roof, silver blue, "Race Bannon"
1963 Fleetwood 60S, turquoise, "The Miami Special"
1959 Sedan Deville flat top, tan, "Jupiter-2"
1947 Caddy Sedanette 62, black, "Johnny Cash"
1970 ASC Fleetwood wagon, dark blue, "Iron Maiden"
Lifetime CLC

Eric DeVirgilis CLC# 8621

Almost sounds like a completely different car compared to when I saw it at the 2017 GN.
A Cadillac Motorcar is a Possession for which there is no Acceptable Substitute

jwwseville60

At the 2017 Nats it looked OK, drove OK, but it was a rolling house of cards.
1960 Eldorado Seville, Copper, "IKE"
1961 CDV, gold, "Goldfinger"
1964 Eldorado, Turquoise, "Billy the Squid"
1963 De Ville Station Wagon Vista roof, silver blue, "Race Bannon"
1963 Fleetwood 60S, turquoise, "The Miami Special"
1959 Sedan Deville flat top, tan, "Jupiter-2"
1947 Caddy Sedanette 62, black, "Johnny Cash"
1970 ASC Fleetwood wagon, dark blue, "Iron Maiden"
Lifetime CLC

jwwseville60

Data tag, etc.

1960 Eldorado Seville, Copper, "IKE"
1961 CDV, gold, "Goldfinger"
1964 Eldorado, Turquoise, "Billy the Squid"
1963 De Ville Station Wagon Vista roof, silver blue, "Race Bannon"
1963 Fleetwood 60S, turquoise, "The Miami Special"
1959 Sedan Deville flat top, tan, "Jupiter-2"
1947 Caddy Sedanette 62, black, "Johnny Cash"
1970 ASC Fleetwood wagon, dark blue, "Iron Maiden"
Lifetime CLC

Eric DeVirgilis CLC# 8621

Interesting. It started life not as a Sedan deVille but as a Park Avenue!
A Cadillac Motorcar is a Possession for which there is no Acceptable Substitute

Jason Edge

#58
Quote from: Eric DeVirgilis CLC# 8621 on March 30, 2022, 09:48:29 AM
Interesting. It started life not as a Sedan deVille but as a Park Avenue!
Well,  not trying to be a stickler but technically it was a Sedan de Ville... a Park Avenue Sedan de Ville. It shared the same interior and styling of the other two sedan deVilles (6329 & 6339), and overall basically the same as the 6339 4 window SDV except being 8 inches shorter at the rear...hence, short deck.  Still, the point is well taken that you would have thought it would have been a regular 223" length Sedan de Ville ... not the 215" shorty!  Since the rear section is basically replaced anyway I guess the point is mute.
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jwwseville60

Since the Deville Park Ave is so rare, maybe Ill put it back to original.
1960 Eldorado Seville, Copper, "IKE"
1961 CDV, gold, "Goldfinger"
1964 Eldorado, Turquoise, "Billy the Squid"
1963 De Ville Station Wagon Vista roof, silver blue, "Race Bannon"
1963 Fleetwood 60S, turquoise, "The Miami Special"
1959 Sedan Deville flat top, tan, "Jupiter-2"
1947 Caddy Sedanette 62, black, "Johnny Cash"
1970 ASC Fleetwood wagon, dark blue, "Iron Maiden"
Lifetime CLC