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Offline Tito Sobrinho

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Cadillac trivia.
« on: June 29, 2014, 09:23:08 AM »
I have two questions:
When did Cadillac introduce front wheel independent suspension?
As a matter of fact, when the 4 wheel independent suspension was introduced to the Cadillac car?
Tito S.

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Offline 936CD69

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Re: Cadillac trivia.
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2014, 09:27:21 AM »
1934 for the "knee-action" independent front suspension. 1979 for the 4 wheel independent suspension (Eldorado)
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Offline Steve Passmore

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Re: Cadillac trivia.
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2014, 03:53:42 PM »
That was 1934 across the board for GM cars in general.
Steve

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Offline Doug Houston

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Re: Cadillac trivia.
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2014, 09:27:59 PM »
I seek to elucidate!!

In 1934 there were two candidates for IFS. GM wanted to test the two systms, so on Chevrolet and Pontiac, they installed the "Dubonnet" IFS. It was a monstrosity, full of highly stressed components, and in high need of good maintenance (which never happened). Pontiac dumped it very quickly, but Chevrolet held on through 1938.

The system that won out was the wishbone IFS that is like what was used for many years.

GM went to all coil about 1958, hoping that the new ElDorado design would carry over, but quality problems doused that.
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Offline Steve Passmore

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Re: Cadillac trivia.
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2014, 03:37:00 AM »
Then I must seek to educate you!  The question was about IFS in general not just "Dubonnet" and Buick had  wishbone IFS in 1934.   Buick also went to all coil in 1938!
Steve

Present
1937 60 convertible coupe
1941 62 convertible coupe
1941 62 coupe

Previous
1936 70 Sport coupe
1937 85 series V12 sedan
1938 60 coupe
1938 50 coupe
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1940 62 coupe
1941 62 convertible coupe x2
1941 61 coupe
1941 61 sedan x2
1941 62 sedan x2
1947 62 sedan
1959 62 coupe

Offline Jay Friedman

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Re: Cadillac trivia.
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2014, 12:59:13 PM »
I think Oldsmobile adopted all coil suspension at about the same time.  I know the '49 Olds I had in the '50s had coil springs in the rear
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Offline Doug Houston

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Re: Cadillac trivia.
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2014, 07:00:58 PM »
My apolopgies for being so verbose.

Inde3ed, Buick (maybe Cadillac too) had the "other" candidate suspension at the same time as Chevy and Pontiac had the "knee action".
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38-9039
39-9057B
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41 Olds 41-3929

Offline Tito Sobrinho

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Re: Cadillac trivia.
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2014, 09:12:34 PM »
I appreciated  all the received answers.
Tito S.

1949 CCP 6267X  (First Series)

Thanks to Frank Hershey for its design and thanks to Harry Barr, Ed Cole, John Gordon and Byron Ellis for its engine.

 

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