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Phone charger blowing fuse?

Started by Jeff Wilk, July 05, 2014, 02:10:26 PM

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Jeff Wilk

Getting ready for drive in our 59 to the GN. I changed out one cigarette lighter socket to a new generic fits right in replacement. Plugged in my car phone charger into the new lighter with nothing attached and the 25amp body Feed blew after about 5 seconds. Any ideas?
"Impossible Only Describes The Degree Of Difficulty" 

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1933 Phaeton Chevrolet - "Baby Cadillac"
1933 Master Sedan Chevrolet - "Baby Cadillac"

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Quote from: Jeff Wilk on July 05, 2014, 02:10:26 PM
I changed out one cigarette lighter socket to a new generic fits right in replacement. Plugged in my car phone charger into the new lighter with nothing attached and the 25amp body Feed blew after about 5 seconds.

Having the same problem as you with my fathers 59. Haven't looked into it yet though.

-Gavin
-Gavin Myers CLC Member #27431
"The 59' Cadillac says more about America than a whole trunk full of history books, It was the American Dream"

76eldo

Check the polarity of the wires feeding the socket and make sure that the center pin on the charger is supposed to be hot.

Brian

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Jeff Wilk

Interesting. The original 59 factory lighter recepticle only has one connection point which takes the hot barrel end right onto the center. The new replacement has a center connection AND a spade connector on the body housing of the new recepticle. I only connected the factory harness wire to the center connection as was with the original.

Should the hot be going to the spade connector on the body of the new recepticle?  Or does that spade need to run to a ground?

Jeff
"Impossible Only Describes The Degree Of Difficulty" 

Southern New Jersey

1959 Cadillac Fleetwood Sixty Special
1975 Eldorado Convertible (#12 made)
1933 Phaeton Chevrolet - "Baby Cadillac"
1933 Master Sedan Chevrolet - "Baby Cadillac"

SOLD
1976 Cadillac Mirage (factory authorized Pick-Up)
1958 Cadillac Sixty-Special
1958 Cadillac Sixty-Special
1958 Cadillac Sedan
1958 Cadillac Coupe Deville

Coupe Deville

I think the spade connector goes to ground and the center pin is the hot.
-Gavin Myers CLC Member #27431
"The 59' Cadillac says more about America than a whole trunk full of history books, It was the American Dream"

Jeff Wilk

Nope. I ran a ground to the new spade connector on the body of the new recepticle and still blows fuse immediately. I cleaned up the other original ligjter socket by the pass side and plugged in the phone charger and it works fine.  This new socket keeps blowing fuses for some reason.
"Impossible Only Describes The Degree Of Difficulty" 

Southern New Jersey

1959 Cadillac Fleetwood Sixty Special
1975 Eldorado Convertible (#12 made)
1933 Phaeton Chevrolet - "Baby Cadillac"
1933 Master Sedan Chevrolet - "Baby Cadillac"

SOLD
1976 Cadillac Mirage (factory authorized Pick-Up)
1958 Cadillac Sixty-Special
1958 Cadillac Sixty-Special
1958 Cadillac Sedan
1958 Cadillac Coupe Deville

dplotkin

Put your DVM set on continuity and measure between the center connector and the side of the unit. If it conducts, the socket is no good.

Dan
56 Fleetwood Sixty Special (Starlight silver over Dawn Grey)
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62 Pontiac Bonneville Vista
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TJ Hopland

Do you have any other devices you can try?   I'm wondering if maybe something in the design of that charger that is not compatible with that socket design.   I remember having a device that would do that in one car if I plugged it in 'right side up'.   If I plugged it in 'up side down' it was fine.   The plug looked symmetrical but there must have been something different. 
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txturbo

Your car is rejecting the modern technology.
D. Roden
1956 Coupe De Ville PINK
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Julien Abrahams

Hahaha, yes, your car is telling you that it does not want this kind of modern stuff in it. Maybe a silly question, but why not just charge your phone on the pass. side, as you state that this works fine. I think the problem is in the new generic lighter socket.
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