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Size of Rubber Heel Pad for Gas Pedal 1940 Cadillac

Started by ebuliavac, August 31, 2015, 08:46:04 PM

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ebuliavac

Hi All,

What are the dimensions of the gas pedal heel pad used in the 1940 60S or a Series 62 with optional full carpet?  I can guess from photos in Authenticity Manual but it would be better to have exact dimensions. 

Thanks,

Ed Buliavac
1940 6227C
1996 Fleetwood Brougham

Brad Ipsen CLC #737

Do you mean the metal part with the rubber off or the outside of the rubber.  I will have to review my records but I think this is one of the items Steele has listed wrong in the catalog and are unable to correct it.
Brad Ipsen
1940 Cadillac 60S
1938 Cadillac 9039
1940 Cadillac 6267
1940 LaSalle 5227
1949 Cadillac 6237X
1940 Cadillac 60S Limo

ebuliavac

Hi Brad,

It's the piece that is in the lower left photo on page V-11 of the Authenticity Manual.  I haven't had one in my hands so I don't know how it's made or whether metal is attached.  I was looking for the rubber dimensions because I thought I would need to cut a piece custom.  It looks like it protects the entire pedal area from heel wear.  If Steele carries something, I'd be all for it.  I wish I owned stock in that company.

Thanks for getting back.

Best regards,

Ed
1940 6227C
1996 Fleetwood Brougham

Steve Passmore

#3
I always thought true original carpets were a type made of rubber with carpet sections bonded into it. Someone else went through this on the forum a year or two back and did it themselves somehow.
Steve

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ebuliavac

On the Steele site, the closest I could find was 40-0190-88, which is 7 7/8 X 14 1/4," shaped a little like a parallelogram, and apparently for Chrysler products.  I didn't find anything for Cadillac, so this turned up in the Universal section. 

Ed
1940 6227C
1996 Fleetwood Brougham

Brad Ipsen CLC #737

Ed,

I misunderstood.  I thought you were talking about the gas pedal.  On your question like Steve said there was a recent thread about this.  The original was a rubber floor mat with carpet inserts.  The picture you referred to is for the 60S which did have a carpet in 39 and 40.  The 62 series floor mat is shown on page V-12.  If you go the carpet route Steele does make a heel pad for 37 and 38 which is part number 70-0604-88.  In the upholstery kit for 60S LeBaron-Bonney uses vinyl to make the pad.
Brad Ipsen
1940 Cadillac 60S
1938 Cadillac 9039
1940 Cadillac 6267
1940 LaSalle 5227
1949 Cadillac 6237X
1940 Cadillac 60S Limo

ebuliavac

Thanks everyone, that helps a lot.  Steve is of course, correct about the 62 and the rubber and carpet inserts.  I'll have to search for that thread, didn't find it first go-around.  I could go that route with mats, but what would also be correct, and maybe a little nicer would be the full carpet Cadillac option for the 62, which reads like 60S carpeting in a 62 model.  It's in Appendix A-10 of the Authenticity Manual "SPECIAL QUALITY CARPET MATERIAL" with a cost of $50 for the 62 model.  What I already have is carpet that could have been chosen as an option in 1940 based on my research, but it probably needs replacing, it's probably not original, and it doesn't have the rubber pedal mat. 

I think one of the tougher types of decisions is when something needs to be replaced, and it's not original, so do you go back to stock with no options, or back to stock as it might have been ordered as an option from Cadillac at the time?  It can be difficult when a previous owner made some tasteful period-correct decisions, and some, such as the wrong size wheels, which aren't going to work at all from an authenticity perspective.  I try to start with something non-destructive, and then allow taste to lead me in the right direction, given 1940 Cadillac options and predilections, such as avoiding white paint.

Just for fun I attached a photo of the completed front seat, seat surround and folded headliner kit on seat.  Car is getting last bits of mechanical work finished, then it's body and paint, and then to upholstery for completion.  My job has been to procure parts and to work on small things I can bring home with me, like the starter solenoid; and to make a few decisions and pay a few bills.

Many thanks again for your help and patience,

Ed
1940 6227C
1996 Fleetwood Brougham