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1941 Series 62 Coupe — Windshield, door glass & sill questions

Started by Chris Bamford, December 07, 2016, 10:30:38 AM

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Chris Bamford

I am helping a friend get his long-term '41 Series 62 Coupe project back on track and on the road in 2017.  The car was purchased many years ago partially disassembled, and frequent questions arise about the various loose parts.

In reference to the attached photos...

Windshield Garnish: These came with the car chrome plated (the chrome is relatively recent, confirmed by a few underlying pits)... I would have expected this garnish was originally woodgrained as it is on my similar-vintage other-make. Comments?

Door Glass Parts: These five items were taped together. Obviously for a coupe we need pairs of items and no singles â€" we have the 1941 Fisher Body Manual reprint, and while it's not completely clear to me from the illustrations, it seems the rightmost item item in this photo is not required (and may well be from the 1938 Chev whose parts are somewhat intermixed with the Caddy bits). The oddball on the right is several inches shorter that the pair next to it. Do we have an extra part or a missing one?

Sill plates: These, sadly, are what we have. What are other owners doing about replacements, identical or at least serviceable and presentable?

Thank you.

Jeff Hansen

Chris,

Here is what I can tell you...

Windshield Moldings: If your friend's coupe is a deluxe model (6227D) then it had chrome plated windshield moldings.  If not a deluxe model (6227), then the moldings were woodgrained.

Sill plates: These are being reproduced in aluminum.  Places like AllCads or McVeys will have them or can get them.  You can go straight to the manufacturer: Door Sills LLC in North Haledon, NJ.  973-423-1196.  They are made to order and will take about nine (9) months.  Prices, I believe, are reasonable.  Call to get the latest price as my catalog from Door Sills is several years old.

Hope this helps!
Jeff

(edited 12/7/2016, 11:24 AM by Hansen.  Reason - clarify text on sill plates.)
Jeff Hansen
1941 6019S Sixty Special
1942 7533 Imperial Sedan

Steve Passmore

Its always been my understanding after owning  7  1941 Cadillacs that only the 61 series cars had painted screen mouldings and all 62 series were chrome unless optioned for paint.  I had two 62 series with chrome mouldings that were not Deluxe cars but I guess I could have just got lucky with past owners getting them chromed. For sure all 3 of the series 61 cars I have owned were painted not wood-grained though. 

In your second picture Chris to the left are the two bottom channels that attach to the wind-up glass. The other pieces are the uprights that go between your vent window and your wind-up window but I think the correct part is the one to the far right which you only have one of. Having recently had my windows out I don't recognize the two centre pieces. They look too long.

Bought my door sill plates from 'Door Sills' at Hershey in 2013. They were on the shelf at that time.
Steve

Present
1937 60 convertible coupe
1941 62 convertible coupe
1941 62 coupe

Previous
1936 70 Sport coupe
1937 85 series V12 sedan
1938 60 coupe
1938 50 coupe
1939 60S
1940 62 coupe
1941 62 convertible coupe x2
1941 61 coupe
1941 61 sedan x2
1941 62 sedan x2
1947 62 sedan
1959 62 coupe

Chris Bamford

Thank you Jeff and Steve, that is very helpful info. I'll be in touch with Door Sills shortly.

Steve, appreciated your input on the window parts -- we're out of town for a couple days, but I have another pic on my phone of those parts from another angle if that helps you determine which of those RH three are correct for this car.

Steve Passmore

Chris, on closer inspection I now think it may be the two centre channels you need for the hardtop coupe. I took the windows apart on my convertible also recently and the convertibles have an adjuster at the bottom (like the adjuster on the odd piece) so that the top of the window can be adjusted in or out whereas the coupe door is fixed. You will have to put one in place to be sure it can attached at the bottom fixing point.
Steve

Present
1937 60 convertible coupe
1941 62 convertible coupe
1941 62 coupe

Previous
1936 70 Sport coupe
1937 85 series V12 sedan
1938 60 coupe
1938 50 coupe
1939 60S
1940 62 coupe
1941 62 convertible coupe x2
1941 61 coupe
1941 61 sedan x2
1941 62 sedan x2
1947 62 sedan
1959 62 coupe

Chris Bamford

Thanks Steve -- fingers crossed the centre ones are what we need. I'll know for sure next week when I get the doors and related parts over to my workshop. Just trying to get a head start on the knowledge end before picking up the tools.

Wouldn't surprise me though to find the oddball is from this car and the previous owner picked up the straight pair to modify and use.

Steve Passmore

Personally don't think so Chris as the adjuster on the bottom would be redundant on a door with a fixed top. Good luck.
Steve

Present
1937 60 convertible coupe
1941 62 convertible coupe
1941 62 coupe

Previous
1936 70 Sport coupe
1937 85 series V12 sedan
1938 60 coupe
1938 50 coupe
1939 60S
1940 62 coupe
1941 62 convertible coupe x2
1941 61 coupe
1941 61 sedan x2
1941 62 sedan x2
1947 62 sedan
1959 62 coupe

Brad Ipsen CLC #737

The ones in the middle are correct if 41 is the same as 40.  The tab at the top screws into vent window frame which itself screws into the door.  The bottom does have an adjuster for in and out and it goes in a slotted hole for fore and aft adjustment.  On the window channel you need a slotted piece that screws to the two tabs on it.  The window winder rollers fit in that channel.

The 41 Fisher body manual would be quite helpful when you did not take things apart and even if you did it is helpful.  It shows a lot of this hardware, but not all.

After writing the above I looked in the 41 body manual and it is changed in 41 from 40.  It is of the type that you have one of.  Looks like it was changed so you could adjust the division bar separate from the vent wing so the division rubber to glass could be adjusted better. 
Brad Ipsen
1940 Cadillac 60S
1938 Cadillac 9039
1940 Cadillac 6267
1940 LaSalle 5227
1949 Cadillac 6237X
1940 Cadillac 60S Limo