Author Topic: 69 Fleetwood horn issue  (Read 804 times)

Offline CADEE

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  • Name: BRAD DEE
69 Fleetwood horn issue
« on: January 29, 2017, 02:14:46 PM »
Yes i have the dreaded "rim blow" horn and yes it doesn't work. The horns themselves do work, the horn relay works but nothing will blow the horn via the rim blow. Weird thing is, when i insert the ignition key, and lightly push it in towards the column, before actually turning the key to start the car, the horn will blow!!!??
What the heck does that mean?
Brad.
Brad.
1962 Series 62 Convertible.
1969 Fleetwood Brougham

Offline Bobby B

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  • Mendham, New Jersey
  • Name: Bob Bender
Re: 69 Fleetwood horn issue
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2017, 03:11:48 PM »
Wire is probably chafed or open, ready to break, or already severed in the column somewhere up close near the wheel. It's touching metal somewhere completing the circuit (ground) causing the horns to blow. Horns will blow whether the car is running or not. You might hear you horn blowing one day for no apparent reason. Better check it out.
                  Bobby
                                             
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Offline CADEE

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  • Name: BRAD DEE
Re: 69 Fleetwood horn issue
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2017, 09:25:25 PM »
I took the steering wheel off and came across some weird looking piece, it is round and metal and has small slits cut around the outside edge. I can't seem to figure out how to get it off. I tried GENTLY prying it up, but it didn't move. I looked in the shop manual and it says nothing about this piece.
Anyone know how to get it off???
Thanks. Brad
Brad.
1962 Series 62 Convertible.
1969 Fleetwood Brougham

Offline Bobby B

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  • Name: Bob Bender
Re: 69 Fleetwood horn issue
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2017, 09:46:14 PM »
Brad,
 Post a picture please....
                      Bobby
1947 Cadillac Series 62 Convertible Coupe
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Offline Glen

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  • Name: Glen Houlton
Re: 69 Fleetwood horn issue
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2017, 01:08:19 AM »
Does this help?
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Offline Bobby B

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  • Mendham, New Jersey
  • Name: Bob Bender
Re: 69 Fleetwood horn issue
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2017, 01:23:00 AM »
Does this help?
Glen,
 Yes, Thanks! ;)  I guess he's referring to the lock shaft assembly.... :-\
                                                              Bobby

Brad,
 Hi. You usually have to put pressure DOWN on the plate to remove a snap/lock ring that allows the lock shaft assembly plate to slide up and off, so you can get further down into your steering column if that's where the issue lies. You'll need a steering wheel puller kit to get further down into your column and also to re-assemble it. You can get a knock-off kit at HF for a few dollars.
1947 Cadillac Series 62 Convertible Coupe
1968 Mustang Convertible
1973 Mustang Convertible
1969 Jaguar E-Type Roadster
1971 Datsun 240Z
1979 H-D FLH

Offline CADEE

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  • Name: BRAD DEE
Re: 69 Fleetwood horn issue
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2017, 02:39:59 PM »
The picture really helped!
When it gets warmer here, i live in Ontario Canada, I will try taking it off again.
Thanks for all the replies guys.
Brad.
Brad.
1962 Series 62 Convertible.
1969 Fleetwood Brougham

Offline chrisntam

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  • Name: Chris Jessen
1970 Deville Convertible 
Dallas, Texas

Offline 76eldo

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  • Name: Brian Rachlin
Re: 69 Fleetwood horn issue
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2017, 10:27:01 PM »
You HAVE to use that tool.  The part you are referring to is the lock plate that locks the steering wheel when you turn off the key.  You will see a pin on one of the scallops at about 11:00.  There's also the "key-in" buzzer switch that has to come out and hopefully you didn't damage the plastic horn insulator.

If you are delving into this without the help of the factory shop manual you may want to stop now.

Brian
Brian Rachlin
Huntingdon Valley, Pa
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