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Started by Cape Cod Fleetwood, February 26, 2018, 06:42:39 PM

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Cape Cod Fleetwood

OK folks, how the flip do you get this out... As I remember you're supposed to push in and rotate left to remove. There's a wee bit of rotation with the bulb, but that's it, it won't come out. Solution?

\m/
Laurie
There are 2 kinds of cars in the world, Cadillac and everything else....

The Present -1970 Fleetwood Brougham

The Past -
1996 Deville Concours
1987 Sedan De Ville "Commonwealth Edition"
1981 Coupe De Ville (8-6-4)
1976 Sedan De Ville
1975 Sedan De Ville

The Daily Driver and work slave -
2008 GMC Acadia SLT *options/all

35-709

You might try sticking the "straw" on a WD-40 can around the bulb base and squirt in there, then keep wiggling the bulb 'til it lets loose. 
1935 Cadillac Sedan resto-mod "Big Red"
1973 Cadillac Caribou - Sold - but still in the family
1950 Jaguar Mark V Saloon resto-mod - Sold
1942 Cadillac 6269 - Sold
1968 Pontiac Bonneville Convertible - Sold
1950 Packard 2dr. Club Sedan
1935 Glenn Pray - Auburn Boattail Speedster, Gen. 2

35-709

When you get it out, clean up the socket as best you can and then be sure to use bulb grease on the bulb base when you put the new bulb in.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Permatex-Bulb-Grease-5-oz/37202082

Loctite makes it also --- should be available at most any auto parts store or (as you can see) Wal-Mart.
1935 Cadillac Sedan resto-mod "Big Red"
1973 Cadillac Caribou - Sold - but still in the family
1950 Jaguar Mark V Saloon resto-mod - Sold
1942 Cadillac 6269 - Sold
1968 Pontiac Bonneville Convertible - Sold
1950 Packard 2dr. Club Sedan
1935 Glenn Pray - Auburn Boattail Speedster, Gen. 2

Cape Cod Fleetwood

Quote from: 35-709 on February 26, 2018, 06:46:24 PM
You might try sticking the "straw" on a WD-40 can around the bulb base and squirt in there, then keep wiggling the bulb 'til it lets loose.


:o

WD40 on an electrical connection?
How about a squirt of DeOxit instead??

\m/
Laurie?
There are 2 kinds of cars in the world, Cadillac and everything else....

The Present -1970 Fleetwood Brougham

The Past -
1996 Deville Concours
1987 Sedan De Ville "Commonwealth Edition"
1981 Coupe De Ville (8-6-4)
1976 Sedan De Ville
1975 Sedan De Ville

The Daily Driver and work slave -
2008 GMC Acadia SLT *options/all

35-709

WD-40 is fine!  You could also use it in a pinch instead of bulb grease.  Although I would far prefer the bulb grease ---
trust me!   ;D
1935 Cadillac Sedan resto-mod "Big Red"
1973 Cadillac Caribou - Sold - but still in the family
1950 Jaguar Mark V Saloon resto-mod - Sold
1942 Cadillac 6269 - Sold
1968 Pontiac Bonneville Convertible - Sold
1950 Packard 2dr. Club Sedan
1935 Glenn Pray - Auburn Boattail Speedster, Gen. 2

Cape Cod Fleetwood

Quote from: 35-709 on February 26, 2018, 06:54:53 PM
WD-40 is fine!  You could also use it in a pinch instead of bulb grease.

Okee doakee! <she types quivering>

\m/
Laurie!
There are 2 kinds of cars in the world, Cadillac and everything else....

The Present -1970 Fleetwood Brougham

The Past -
1996 Deville Concours
1987 Sedan De Ville "Commonwealth Edition"
1981 Coupe De Ville (8-6-4)
1976 Sedan De Ville
1975 Sedan De Ville

The Daily Driver and work slave -
2008 GMC Acadia SLT *options/all

Cape Cod Fleetwood

Still a push in and rotate left, correct??

Laurie?
There are 2 kinds of cars in the world, Cadillac and everything else....

The Present -1970 Fleetwood Brougham

The Past -
1996 Deville Concours
1987 Sedan De Ville "Commonwealth Edition"
1981 Coupe De Ville (8-6-4)
1976 Sedan De Ville
1975 Sedan De Ville

The Daily Driver and work slave -
2008 GMC Acadia SLT *options/all

35-709

1935 Cadillac Sedan resto-mod "Big Red"
1973 Cadillac Caribou - Sold - but still in the family
1950 Jaguar Mark V Saloon resto-mod - Sold
1942 Cadillac 6269 - Sold
1968 Pontiac Bonneville Convertible - Sold
1950 Packard 2dr. Club Sedan
1935 Glenn Pray - Auburn Boattail Speedster, Gen. 2

The Tassie Devil(le)

Just be careful that you don't press too hard, and smash the glass, and cut your precious skin in the process.   Blood is so hard to clean up after it has dried, and dry it will because it takes a long time to get back from the hospital, or the First Aid centre after applying a Bandaid or two.

If it was a double pole globe, you would be dealing with is soldered lumps on the base of the globe, which over time, indent themselves over the spring-loaded terminals.

Bruce. >:D

PS.   Sometimes it is easier to break the glass, and insert a pair of pliers and attack it that way.
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'70 Ranchero Squire (RHD)
'74 Chris Craft Gull Wing (SH)
'02 VX Series II Holden Commodore SS Sedan
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Past Cars of significance - to me
1935 Ford 3 Window Coupe
1936 Ford 5 Window Coupe
1937 Chevrolet Sports Coupe
1955 Chevrolet Convertible
1959 Ford Fairlane Ranch Wagon
1960 Cadillac CDV
1972 Cadillac Eldorado Coupe

Jeff Rosansky CLC #28373

#9
Mine were welded in there. As Bruce said, wear a cheap glove because the bulb may very well break. I had to actually remove the whole fixture (which was not fun) and replace the socket with a Dorman type generic socket in the housing and then reinstall.  I wouldn't suggest that route. If it doesn't come out easily I would just take the whole fixture out and soak it for a couple of days with penetrating oil.
And yes, WD40 works just fine on electrical stuff. Can use in sparkplug boots too.
Jeff
Jeff Rosansky
CLC #28373
1970 Coupe DeVille (Big Red)
1955 Series 62 (Baby Blue)
Dad's new 1979 Coupe DeVille

Cape Cod Fleetwood

Bruce, would you believe I'm a certified First Responder? 1 level under paramedic. I actually carry with me at work a suture kit, staples and steri-strips/betadine with saline, bandaging, gloves, etc. Depending on how badly I hurt myself or the injury to one of my guys, I can patch me/them up, and back to work!

I do electrical... I replaced my home's panel, added "no go" LED lights directly onto the legs from the street,  and built in my home's generator back up system to said panel. WD40 on an electrical part just shucks my corn but - OKEE DOAKEE!

you guys RAWK!
\m/
Laurie!
There are 2 kinds of cars in the world, Cadillac and everything else....

The Present -1970 Fleetwood Brougham

The Past -
1996 Deville Concours
1987 Sedan De Ville "Commonwealth Edition"
1981 Coupe De Ville (8-6-4)
1976 Sedan De Ville
1975 Sedan De Ville

The Daily Driver and work slave -
2008 GMC Acadia SLT *options/all

59-in-pieces

OK, another option.
I have found that the reason the bulb locks up is because of calcium left over from a leaking lens gasket which fills in the grooves into which the "tits" nubs on each side of the bulb bases that slide in and then rotate into the 90 degree grooves to lock the bulb tight into the socket - talk about your run on sentence.
I use CLR (calcium,lime, Rust) remover.
I often soak the socket with the bulb locked in, a couple of times.
If the bulbs move even slightly - up and down - the CLR gets in there and loosens even quicker.
In a day or so, the bulbs free right up, without having a paramedic on call.
Just a suggestion,
Have fun,
Steve B.
S. Butcher

Cape Cod Fleetwood

Quote from: 59-in-pieces on February 27, 2018, 12:16:09 AM
OK, another option.
I have found that the reason the bulb locks up is because of calcium left over from a leaking lens gasket which fills in the grooves into which the "" nubs on each side of the bulb bases that slide in and then rotate into the 90 degree grooves to lock the bulb tight into the socket - talk about your run on sentence.
I use CLR (calcium,lime, Rust) remover.
I often soak the socket with the bulb locked in, a couple of times.
If the bulbs move even slightly - up and down - the CLR gets in there and loosens even quicker.
In a day or so, the bulbs free right up, without having a paramedic on call.
Just a suggestion,
Have fun,
Steve B.

Glad that works for you! My concern would be the glycol in the CLR eating the insulation
around the wires, what do I know... Its why the WD40 and the petroleum in it scares me
me too, eating the wire insulation. Where as a chemical like DeOxit poses no danger to electrical
components. But I'll try the WD40, you guys know better than me about these old cars!

\m/
Laurie!
There are 2 kinds of cars in the world, Cadillac and everything else....

The Present -1970 Fleetwood Brougham

The Past -
1996 Deville Concours
1987 Sedan De Ville "Commonwealth Edition"
1981 Coupe De Ville (8-6-4)
1976 Sedan De Ville
1975 Sedan De Ville

The Daily Driver and work slave -
2008 GMC Acadia SLT *options/all

cadillacmike68

#13
Quote from: Cape Cod Fleetwood on February 26, 2018, 06:56:28 PM
Okee doakee! <she types quivering>

\m/
Laurie!

It's only 12V. It won't short anything out. It's not like house current 120-240V.

At least you don't have to take the bumper off like 1966 owners do...
Regards,
"Cadillac" Mike

59-in-pieces

I am not trying to be contrary or force my opinion on anyone - HOWEVER - I have used the CLR for many many moons (years actually) and have never found the insulation to have been eaten away or softened - and I don't know from Glycol - but it works and well - and should have previously included lime being removed.
Oh by the way, I have soaked individual sockets - with pigtails - in the CLR (for months on end in a closed glass jar) even without the bulb in it because I wanted to start with a nice clean surface (good contact surface) going forward - avoiding problems later.
And yes, I have tried WD40, and it worked OK if the corruption/corrosion in the socket was not too thick or crusty.
Have fun,
Steve B.
S. Butcher

Cape Cod Fleetwood

And I still can't get the bulb out...  >:(
Gave it another douche with WD40, I'll try again tomorrow.

\m/
Laurie
There are 2 kinds of cars in the world, Cadillac and everything else....

The Present -1970 Fleetwood Brougham

The Past -
1996 Deville Concours
1987 Sedan De Ville "Commonwealth Edition"
1981 Coupe De Ville (8-6-4)
1976 Sedan De Ville
1975 Sedan De Ville

The Daily Driver and work slave -
2008 GMC Acadia SLT *options/all

Mike Josephic CLC #3877

#16
Learned something new -- never heard of DeOxit.  I
looked up the formulation and it's neat stuff for cleaning
sensitive electronic equipment.   

As far as the bulb, if you still can't get it out tomorrow
after the WD-40 soak, twisting it will likely separate the
glass bulb from the socket.  Then things will get easier. 
Take a pair of needle nose pliers, grab the side of the
socket and twist it out.  This will not be the only time
you'll have to do this!

Mike
1955 Cadillac Eldorado
1973 Cadillac Eldorado
1995 Cadillac Seville
2004 Escalade
1997 GMC Suburban 4X4, 454 engine, 3/4 ton
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Cape Cod Fleetwood

Quote from: Mike Josephic  CLC #3877 on February 28, 2018, 10:42:47 PM
Learned something new -- never heard of DeOxit.  I looked
up the formulation and it's neat stuff for cleaning sensitive
electronic equipment.   

As far as the bulb, if you still can't get it out tomorrow after the
WD-40 soak, twisting it will likely separate the glass bulb from
the socket.  Then things will get easier.  Take a pair of needle
nose pliers, grab the side of the socket and twist it out.  This will
not be the only time you'll have to do this!

Mike

Mike why don't I just break the bulb, use the pliers, and put myself out of my misery?
\m/
Laurie?

PS: DeOxit, can't imagine life without it. Especially as a guitar tech. Nothing quiets noisy pots and jacks like it. Around the house too, outlets that are hard to plug into? Give it a squirt. I'm a mile from the ocean here, myself and my clients often have electrical issues in the home because of the salty, corrosive air. Oxidized outlets and switches 'can' create an arking condition, not so good. When I bought this house 14 years ago I replaced EVERY switch and outlet, and each were oxidized, badly. I used sandpaper to make the wires shiny copper again, then some die-electric grease with my fingers on the wires, then made the new connection. 14 years later they all look brand new still. All my outdoor outlets get a squirt of DeOxit annually, done during the spring mntx schedule. Even with the grease on the connections. All the connections on the generator get a squirt during the fall mntx.
There are 2 kinds of cars in the world, Cadillac and everything else....

The Present -1970 Fleetwood Brougham

The Past -
1996 Deville Concours
1987 Sedan De Ville "Commonwealth Edition"
1981 Coupe De Ville (8-6-4)
1976 Sedan De Ville
1975 Sedan De Ville

The Daily Driver and work slave -
2008 GMC Acadia SLT *options/all

Bob Kielar

Hello Laurie,
                    I have one of these bulb removal tools works well.
Keep Cruzin,
Bob Kielar
Keep Cruzin
1955 Cadillac Fleetwood

Cape Cod Fleetwood

Quote from: Bob Kielar on March 01, 2018, 11:20:45 AM
Hello Laurie,
                    I have one of these bulb removal tools works well.
Keep Cruzin,
Bob Kielar

Did you make that?
Laurie?
There are 2 kinds of cars in the world, Cadillac and everything else....

The Present -1970 Fleetwood Brougham

The Past -
1996 Deville Concours
1987 Sedan De Ville "Commonwealth Edition"
1981 Coupe De Ville (8-6-4)
1976 Sedan De Ville
1975 Sedan De Ville

The Daily Driver and work slave -
2008 GMC Acadia SLT *options/all