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Losing small amounts of brake fluid

Started by hearn, September 17, 2018, 02:31:18 PM

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hearn

On a four hour trip (two there and two back) I lost about one to one and a half ounces of brake fluid in my 1954 Cadillac.  This is the first longer trip in a while so I could measure my loss.  Yet, the brakes seem fine: good pedal and no pulling to one side.  Any thoughts on where I might look first for the culprit?  Thanks, Jim

signart

First place I would look is the inside walls of your tires.
Art D. Woody

tripwire

Yup. If there is going to be a wet spot somewhere.  Look at the inner sides of your wheels, and at the hoses at the front wheels, the one hose on your differential and all along the frame where the pipes run.  You'll see it eventually. 

Wes in VT
Driving now:
2023 XT4 Luxury
1940 LaSalle 5229 C4D

A few I used to drive:
1976 Cadillac Ambulance
1969 Cadillac Hearse, Superior Body
1966 Buick Wildcat Hearse
1957 Ford Thunderbird x 3, 1 E code, 2 D code
1956 Oldsmobile Rocket 88 Sedan
1949 Mercury Convertible
1949 Mercury Coupe, Mild Custom
1936 Buick Special Sedan

Steve Passmore

Lift off the dust cap on your master cylinder and see if any fluid runs out.
Steve

Present
1937 60 convertible coupe
1941 62 convertible coupe
1941 62 coupe

Previous
1936 70 Sport coupe
1937 85 series V12 sedan
1938 60 coupe
1938 50 coupe
1939 60S
1940 62 coupe
1941 62 convertible coupe x2
1941 61 coupe
1941 61 sedan x2
1941 62 sedan x2
1947 62 sedan
1959 62 coupe

75DevilleFMBlue

If you cannot find an external leak then you will want to start thinking internal leak. As in internal to the master cylinder. Masters can fail internally and when that happens they leak past the pistons and springs and leak into the booster assuming you have the comfort of power brakes, which I imagine you do. The easiest way I know of to check, which is pretty easy is to remove your dipstick from you crankcase (of fashion your own dipstick.) and make sure it is dry/ clean. Then remove your vacuum line from your booster and then slide the dipstick down inside your booster and pull it out. If it has fluid in the booster then that will be your culprit.

Steve Passmore

Sorry, I hadn't thought he could have a booster, So of coarse he will not have a dust cover.
Steve

Present
1937 60 convertible coupe
1941 62 convertible coupe
1941 62 coupe

Previous
1936 70 Sport coupe
1937 85 series V12 sedan
1938 60 coupe
1938 50 coupe
1939 60S
1940 62 coupe
1941 62 convertible coupe x2
1941 61 coupe
1941 61 sedan x2
1941 62 sedan x2
1947 62 sedan
1959 62 coupe

Jeff Rosansky CLC #28373

I had trouble getting the line into the master and master cap to seal well in the 55.  I now have no visable brake fluid loss any more but still think I may lose a bit there. Mite be worth checking.
Jeff
Jeff Rosansky
CLC #28373
1970 Coupe DeVille (Big Red)
1955 Series 62 (Baby Blue)
Dad's new 1979 Coupe DeVille

54cadillac

54 brake booster is notorious for sucking brake fluid right thru and into the engine! Pull off the vacuum line to the engine and check for fluid. Do not drive the car if you find fluid there. Repair booster asap

Mike Josephic CLC #3877

I agree with several of the previous posters about
the Hydrovac.  If there is an internal leak, the vacuum
line to the manifold will be sucking brake fluid.

Remove the vacuum line at the manifold end and check
for brake fluid (use your finger) it will be wet if it's
leaking.

Solution:  Remove the Hydrovac for rebuild.

Mike
1955 Cadillac Eldorado
1973 Cadillac Eldorado
1995 Cadillac Seville
2004 Escalade
1997 GMC Suburban 4X4, 454 engine, 3/4 ton
custom built by Santa Fe in Evansville, IN
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