Author Topic: Radiator for a 1937 Lasalle sedan  (Read 1043 times)

Offline Sally Kay

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Radiator for a 1937 Lasalle sedan
« on: February 05, 2020, 12:43:55 AM »
I am new to this forum and need advice.  I just purchased a Lasalle and I am in need of a radiator due to the car running hot. A small leak was also located .
Any advice on where to buy and type of radiator needed. Is it difficult to replace the radiator?  My car is beautiful and I can't wait to cruise in it

Offline carlhungness

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Re: Radiator for a 1937 Lasalle sedan
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2020, 01:40:10 AM »
       Sounds as though you need some assistance in the form of a good mechanic. We could give you chapter and verse on how to remove the radiator from a '37 LaSalle but your question is so basic I don't think you'd know which way to turn. Of course your radiator can be repaired, that's sort of like asking if the vehicle needs gas to run.
      Let us know what city you're in and someone can give you direction and assistance.
      Your post should be on the tech forum of course.

Offline Sally Kay

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Re: Radiator for a 1937 Lasalle sedan
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2020, 07:14:25 AM »
Thanks for the reply . Sorry if my first question was too basic and in the incorrect forum. I will be checking with a mechanic. I got home with my beautiful Lasalle running hot and I guess I just wanted some support from people with knowledge of the situation. If your intent was to intimidate those new to the forum it worked.  I was hoping this forum would help me make some correct turns when I don't know which way to turn.

Offline 55 CDV Fan 82

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Re: Radiator for a 1937 Lasalle sedan
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2020, 09:41:07 AM »

You'll probably need to get the radiator reworked by Brassworks or some other radiator shop.  1937 LaSalles have a tendency of running hot.  Sometimes its as simple as the front shutters being held closed by the thermostat.  Other times it could be that the water pump needs servicing/replacing.  If your temperature gauge is near the red zone its running too hot and can crack the block.
Tim

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1955 Cadillac Coupe Deville "Evelyn"
1967 Buick Wildcat Convertible "Joyce"

Past Cars

1937 LaSalle Opera Coupe "Adeline"
1940 Chevrolet Coupe "Scarlett"
1941 Ford 11Y truck
1954 Buick Special 48D
1955 Packard Clipper Super Panama
1957 Cadillac Series 62 Coupe
1962 VW Bug
1962 Dodge 880
1966 Mercury Montclair
1968 Chevrolet Chevelle SS
1968 Plymouth Barracuda
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Offline harry s

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Re: Radiator for a 1937 Lasalle sedan
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2020, 10:19:59 AM »
First of all welcome to the forum and congratulations on your acquisition. As Tim mentioned these cars (flathead engine era) have a reputation for overheating. It is best to start with the simplest things first. Unless your engine steamed or boiled over it is good to check the accuracy of your gauge. A good flush of the system then proceed to the more complicated items. There have been discussions in the past on this subject so a forum search would be helpful. If you do some DIY and can't find the answers don't be intimidated ask away. When looking for professional help it is best to try and get recommendations from old car owners and use shops that specialize in our type cars.
Harry
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Offline carlhungness

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Re: Radiator for a 1937 Lasalle sedan
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2020, 02:27:16 PM »
      As noted, let us know what state you are in and some one of us can point you in the right direction to find a mechanic. For example, Bob Jones radiator shop in Bloomington, IN can assuredly rebuild your radiator and there are others around the country who can do the same.
      I drove my '37 LaSalle coupe 110,000 miles and recall the car getting hot on multiple occasions. It also vapor-locked with some frequency going over Rocky Mountain passes. So you're not going to find a magic bullet to make your old flathead run cool, but it will run at a reasonable temperature if all is in good order.
     I'll be more than happy to personally assist and feel free to e mail me at carlhungness@frontier.com  (812 273-2472 phone) for any questions you have regarding the car.

Offline 55 CDV Fan 82

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Re: Radiator for a 1937 Lasalle sedan
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2020, 03:53:09 PM »

Also check your timing.  I found my timing was off 10 degrees and when I adjusted it my car ran cool.
Tim

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1955 Cadillac Coupe Deville "Evelyn"
1967 Buick Wildcat Convertible "Joyce"

Past Cars

1937 LaSalle Opera Coupe "Adeline"
1940 Chevrolet Coupe "Scarlett"
1941 Ford 11Y truck
1954 Buick Special 48D
1955 Packard Clipper Super Panama
1957 Cadillac Series 62 Coupe
1962 VW Bug
1962 Dodge 880
1966 Mercury Montclair
1968 Chevrolet Chevelle SS
1968 Plymouth Barracuda
1977 Lincoln

Offline DaveZ

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Re: Radiator for a 1937 Lasalle sedan
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2020, 04:03:08 PM »
Welcome aboard! Always nice to see there are others out there interested in prewar cars. Don't panic just yet as there are multiple reasons it may be running hot. I forget now and can't look back back someone has asked does it boil over or the gauge just move into the red zone? Depending on you answer there would be different avenues to follow. Most of us with the 322 and 346 flatheads are well versed with overheating causes and fixes. Answering the does it boil over and when does it boil over questions will guide you. With mine I had the radiator rebuilt and I took the head bolts out to pressure clean the block. Never near the red even going up long hills in the summer. if the small leak is in the radiator that is where the first and hopefully only problem is. The removal of the radiator is at minimum a 2 person job as you need to take the hood off.  If you decide to take on that venture I can tell you step by step what you need to remove.
« Last Edit: February 05, 2020, 04:22:30 PM by DaveZ »
Regards,
David Zitzmann
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1937 5019
1940 5219

Offline Sally Kay

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Re: Radiator for a 1937 Lasalle sedan
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2020, 07:19:27 PM »
I am so thankful for all of your posts. We are trying to learn everything we can about my Lasalle and your advice has been very helpful. Ill be asking questions as they look for solutions to the overheating problem.  There was a bubbling sound of water in the radiator when we parked it. Temperature gauge was not on red but close. They have discovered a small leak in the radiator and they are trying to get an additional fan running. We are located in South Louisiana between Lake Charles and Lafayette.

Offline harry s

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Re: Radiator for a 1937 Lasalle sedan
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2020, 10:22:58 AM »
The bubbling sound you hear when the engine is turned off is another trait of these cars. It is caused by the engine heating up due to the coolant flow stopping. When the radiator is filled too full the coolant will back up through the overflow onto the ground. A good investment would be a non contact thermometer (example: https://www.harborfreight.com/121-infrared-laser-thermometer-63985.html)
This way you can measure the temp at all spots of the system. it is also a good idea to not top off the system but allow it to seek it's level. Keep us posted.   Harry
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Offline DaveZ

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Re: Radiator for a 1937 Lasalle sedan
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2020, 07:28:09 AM »
This is just my opinion and others may have different, but adding a fan will not solve your problem. If the coolant is not flowing properly through the engine and radiator no matter how much air you blow through the radiator will not cool the engine.  The water flow through the block and radiator is what is utmost importance. A clean radiator and an open block along with a good water pump is needed. As Harry stated using the thermal reader will tell you exactly how hot is is and if there are hot spots.
Regards,
David Zitzmann
1932 345B
1937 5019
1940 5219

Offline 55 CDV Fan 82

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Re: Radiator for a 1937 Lasalle sedan
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2020, 09:01:23 AM »

The water pump is definitely key.  These prewar cars had awful water pumps.  I had a 1940 Chevrolet business coupe before my 1937 and I noticed that it kept pegging into the red even though I wasn't losing any coolant.  Turns out the pump impeller had failed.  I changed the pump...and presto!  it never really went past the middle mark on the temp gauge.
Tim

CLC Member #30850

1955 Cadillac Coupe Deville "Evelyn"
1967 Buick Wildcat Convertible "Joyce"

Past Cars

1937 LaSalle Opera Coupe "Adeline"
1940 Chevrolet Coupe "Scarlett"
1941 Ford 11Y truck
1954 Buick Special 48D
1955 Packard Clipper Super Panama
1957 Cadillac Series 62 Coupe
1962 VW Bug
1962 Dodge 880
1966 Mercury Montclair
1968 Chevrolet Chevelle SS
1968 Plymouth Barracuda
1977 Lincoln

Offline 35-709

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Re: Radiator for a 1937 Lasalle sedan
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2020, 10:22:14 AM »
This is just my opinion and others may have different, but adding a fan will not solve your problem. If the coolant is not flowing properly through the engine and radiator no matter how much air you blow through the radiator will not cool the engine.  The water flow through the block and radiator is what is utmost importance. A clean radiator and an open block along with a good water pump is needed. As Harry stated using the thermal reader will tell you exactly how hot is is and if there are hot spots.
I second and completely agree with what DaveZ has said.
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1973 Cadillac Caribou - Sold - but still in the family
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Offline Sally Kay

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Re: Radiator for a 1937 Lasalle sedan
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2020, 08:28:32 PM »
We appreciate all of your opinions and suggestions. Your expertise is welcomed.  Worked on the fan on radiator. Wire was disconnected. We will flush the radiator and if it continues to overheat we will repair/replace radiator and /or water pump.

Offline Sally Kay

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Re: Radiator for a 1937 Lasalle sedan
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2020, 11:28:59 PM »
What are the shutters on the radiator that I am reading about in the forum?  Does a 37 Lasalle have them? They are saying they should be open when overheating.   I also need to know if a 1937 Lasalle has an oil filter?





Offline harvey b

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Re: Radiator for a 1937 Lasalle sedan
« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2020, 01:30:20 PM »
The shutters are in front of the radiator,might be hard to see them if they are still there,they are hooked to a thermostat in the top of the rad.they are supposed to open when the motor warms up.they are a bunch of little flaps?,look just like the ones on a house?.if they are there you can use a wire to keep them open,try that and see if it improves.you can look in through the grille and see if they are there,if your coolant level is low they wont work properly, Harveyb
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Offline Sally Kay

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Re: Radiator for a 1937 Lasalle sedan
« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2020, 02:14:40 PM »
An a/c has been added to the car. Part of it is up againt the front of the radiator. Guess we will have to remove that plate  (has sections that look like the side of the radiator) to see if flaps are on there or open.  Thanks

Offline harvey b

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Re: Radiator for a 1937 Lasalle sedan
« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2020, 03:54:43 PM »
What motor is in your car,the original 322 flathead v8,or has it been modified for a newer motor?,if it has a newer motor do you know if it is the original rad or not?,never seen a 322 with A/C. if it has a different rad in it,likely the shutters were not re-used.Any pictures of your car,we love pictures ;D. Harveyb
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Offline Sally Kay

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Re: Radiator for a 1937 Lasalle sedan
« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2020, 05:35:10 PM »
I was told it is a 322 flathead and the radiator looks like it was made for the car. The A/C is aftermarket.

Offline Sally Kay

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Re: Radiator for a 1937 Lasalle sedan
« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2020, 08:01:03 PM »
Please give me the steps for removing the radiator.

 

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