WHAT?

[spolij]

Unbelievable in Ohio if you drive a hybrid car plates cost you an extra $100 If you drive a fully electric car plates cost you an extra $200. WTF
you use less fossil fuel and lower the amount of harmful emissions and then you pay for it.

Something else I didn't know you now have to have documentation to get a special license that allows you to fly in the United States.

[Timbo]

Geeze John. Extra for Greener Vehicles? Here in Texas I pay around $70 for tags on my 71 Caddy, antique plates that are good for 5 years with NO INSPECTION. And it gets around 9 mpg...up hill, down hill, pulling a Airstream because I can't keep my foot outta the carb.
You would think they would encourage high mpg vehicles. Govmn't at their best.

[savemy67]

Hello John,

Some states have decided that if you own an electric vehicle, the car is not paying the state fuel tax that goes to maintain the roads, so the tag fee has been increased.

If/when electric vehicles become more prevalent, I would expect some states to charge registration fees based on mileage since the mileage data can be supplied by the car to the state (or states in the case of inter-state travel).  Might have to think twice about visiting Aunt Lucy.

How will roads be funded in the absence of fuel tax revenues?

Respectfully submitted,

Christopher Winter

[Big Apple Caddy]

Unbelievable in Ohio if you drive a hybrid car plates cost you an extra $100 If you drive a fully electric car plates cost you an extra $200. WTF
you use less fossil fuel and lower the amount of harmful emissions and then you pay for it.

It's probably just Ohio’s way to make up for loss revenue from the gasoline tax.  When you drive a hybrid or EV, you still use the roads but don't buy (as much) gasoline and therefore don't pay (as much) in gasoline tax which helps fund road repairs and maintenance.

[Eric DeVirgilis CLC# 8621]

That's correct.

[Timbo]

Just found this so I guess they are all thinking along the same line.

"A bill filed by Texas Rep. Ken King, a Republican from the Panhandle, proposed a $200 annual fee for electric vehicles and $100 for hybrids on top of annual registration fees of $50.75 for passenger cars and trucks that weigh 6,000 pounds or less.May 24, 2019"

[R Pope]

Come Fall you will either need a new license that has a "star" on it to fly, a current passport, or global entry card. You only need one of these.

[cadillacmike68]

That's correct.

It's also Whacked.

[Cadman-iac]

Come Fall you will either need a new license that has a "star" on it to fly, a current passport, or global entry card. You only need one of these.

Or you stay within the country and drive wherever you want to go.
I've been overseas before, and into Mexico,  and since I never left or lost anything there,  I have no reason to go back.
I don't fly, to many hassles involved anymore, and since I love to drive,  it doesn't bother me if it takes a little longer to get where I'm going.
Those are just more ways for the government to reach deeper into your pockets and more ways to keep track of everyone.

[Eric DeVirgilis CLC# 8621]

It's also Whacked.

Why? Being electrically powered doesn't mean they don't contribute to road use/wear.

[59-in-pieces]

Talk about "more ways for the government to reach deeper into your pockets".

Here in California - and you know how I feel about the State of fruits and nuts - the registration fees for all my cars, 40's, 50's, and much newer, motorcycles (yes I ride) are going up year after year - WAY WACKY.

Clearly the classics and non-daily drivers don't go far, or tear up the roads.
Typical Liberal/Socialist tax and spend till we drop.

Have fun - while we can,
Steve B.

[hornetball]

Why? Being electrically powered doesn't mean they don't contribute to road use/wear.

They're actually heavier vehicles and cause more wear and tear on the roads.  It is 100% logical.

[35-709]

No free rides.  Road use and the vagaries of weather, etc., equates to wear and tear.  If the highway maintenance people can't get the needed monies from gas taxes, then it needs to (and will) come from another source.

[Eric DeVirgilis CLC# 8621]

Talk about "more ways for the government to reach deeper into your pockets".

Here in California - and you know how I feel about the State of fruits and nuts - the registration fees for all my cars, 40's, 50's, and much newer, motorcycles (yes I ride) are going up year after year - WAY WACKY.

Clearly the classics and non-daily drivers don't go far, or tear up the roads.
Typical Liberal/Socialist tax and spend till we drop.

Have fun - while we can,
Steve B.

In this particular case, I can see the justification for the higher reg fees on EVs but otherwise, I agree with you 1000% percent.

[cadillac ken]

It takes money to maintain roads and to build new ones.  All cars and trucks use the roads and a tax is inevitable on any vehicle that does.

Huge tax cuts abound these days.  Sadly the working class will always bear the brunt of the cuts they never see or can take advantage of.

I can't say it's the liberals that are the problem here.  But I do realize that's the "go to" response.

[gkhashem]

It takes money to maintain roads and to build new ones.  All cars and trucks use the roads and a tax is inevitable on any vehicle that does.

Huge tax cuts abound these days.  Sadly the working class will always bear the brunt of the cuts they never see or can take advantage of.

I can't say it's the liberals that are the problem here.  But I do realize that's the "go to" response.

Yes they do cost but before you spout off some misinformation. Look at this chart.

https://midwestepi.org/2017/05/03/what-are-road-construction-costs-per-lane-mile-in-your-state/

I see a top heavy representation from your blue states. Do you see a trend here?

Especially the admin costs per mile, where they hire the political HACKS.

https://reason.org/policy-study/23rd-annual-highway-report/administrative-disbursements-per-mile/

So keep pretending its all about building a road.

[cadillacmike68]

Why? Being electrically powered doesn't mean they don't contribute to road use/wear.

It emphasizes the hypocrisy of entire push to electric vehicles.

[spolij]

Obviously some of you are not looking at it the way I am. I own a hybrid car and I had to pay $100 more to get my plates.
My problem with this is hybrid cars and electric are saving fossil fuels which is very important to the nation, secondly we are contributing less to air pollution which is important to the nation and the individual states.
As far as taxes are concerned and the cost of maintaining roads, all taxes are put into a pool and then budgets are made but whether it's real estate, gasoline, registrations what ever, it all goes into a pool. Because of the two benefits I mentioned I don't think I should be penalized for owning a hybrid car. When it comes time for budgets let everybody pay something extra. Obviously mainly drivers or state or city road crews what would cost them a penny a year? They could increase the real estate taxes that might cost somebody $.10 a year.
This kind of increase can be done economically for the tax payers and not have to penalize drivers of hybrid or electric cars. That situation is what's helping lower air pollution and less consumption of fossil fuels.

[Big Apple Caddy]

Obviously some of you are not looking at it the way I am. I own a hybrid car and I had to pay $100 more to get my plates.
My problem with this is hybrid cars and electric are saving fossil fuels which is very important to the nation, secondly we are contributing less to air pollution which is important to the nation and the individual states.
As far as taxes are concerned and the cost of maintaining roads, all taxes are put into a pool and then budgets are made but whether it's real estate, gasoline, registrations what ever, it all goes into a pool. Because of the two benefits I mentioned I don't think I should be penalized for owning a hybrid car. When it comes time for budgets let everybody pay something extra. Obviously mainly drivers or state or city road crews what would cost them a penny a year? They could increase the real estate taxes that might cost somebody $.10 a year.
This kind of increase can be done economically for the tax payers and not have to penalize drivers of hybrid or electric cars. That situation is what's helping lower air pollution and less consumption of fossil fuels.

No taxation system is perfect but the gasoline and registration taxes/fees try to tie road usage to funding for road maintenance and repair.  Since hybrids and EVs don't use as much, if any, gasoline but still use the roads, the added registration fee is meant to make up for paying less, if anything, in gasoline taxes.  Don't think of it as being penalized but rather as paying your fair share of the road maintenance and repair tax in a different way.

As far as lower pollution and use of fossil fuels, if you can tie and quantify that to some sort of state budget savings per hybrid/EV then you should make that argument to your state government.  Keep in mind that many states already do offer tax credits or rebates to buyers of hybrids and/or EVs so there is a special tax savings to those buyers that gasoline vehicle buyers don't get.

[Eric DeVirgilis CLC# 8621]

Keep in mind that many states already do offer tax credits or rebates to buyers of hybrids and/or EVs so there is a special tax savings to those buyers that gasoline vehicle buyers don't get.

Indeed.