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REMOVAL OF FRONT SEAT '60 / 62

Started by maseratibillm, March 11, 2020, 08:54:42 PM

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maseratibillm


Sorry Guys, but I cannot figure out how to remove my front seat on my '60 /62 convertible. I know there are 4 bolts, but I cannot find them (maybe under the carpet?) Does anyone have a diagram of a power seat layout showing the bolts?
Thanks
Bill

The Tassie Devil(le)

#1
The bolts are at the extremities of the seat runners, and you will have to dig under the carpet to get at them, once you have removed the plastic protectors.

There should be 4 on each side, two at the front and two at the back.   The Seat Runner has a flat wide flange at each end.

Plus you can see in the pictures, the holes are slotted, which makes it easier to remove and replace as once the fronts are removed, then the rears can be loosened and the seat slipped forwards to clear, then the wiring unclipped.

Bruce. >:D

PS.   Don't worry about the twisted cable in one of the pictures, as that one has to be replaced before the car goes back together.   Or the odd bolts, as they will be replaced.   The previous owner used odd bolts to fasten it down.
'72 Eldorado Convertible (LHD)
'70 Ranchero Squire (RHD)
'74 Chris Craft Gull Wing (SH)
'02 VX Series II Holden Commodore SS Sedan
(Past President Modified Chapter)

Past Cars of significance - to me
1935 Ford 3 Window Coupe
1936 Ford 5 Window Coupe
1937 Chevrolet Sports Coupe
1955 Chevrolet Convertible
1959 Ford Fairlane Ranch Wagon
1960 Cadillac CDV
1972 Cadillac Eldorado Coupe

spolij

Bill the elongated slots in the frame are there so you can adjust the seat left to right. When I put mine back in one side rubbed against the armrest. That's when I realized why the slots were elongated.

76eldo

You will need a helper to move the seat after getting the bolts out.  Be very careful with the track covers if they are still on the car.  Very hard to find these if you break them.

Brian
Brian Rachlin
Huntingdon Valley, Pa
I prefer email's not PM's rachlin@comcast.net

1960 62 Series Conv with Factory Tri Power
1970 DeVille Conv
1970 Eldo
1970 Caribu (?) "The Cadmino"
1973 Eldorado Conv Pace Car
1976 Eldorado Conv
1980 Eldorado H & E Conv
1993 Allante with Hardtop (X2)
2008 DTS
2012 CTS Coupe
2017 XT
1956 Thunderbird
1966 Olds Toronado

spolij

When it's out it would be a good time to clean the tracks grease the and think they call the Pistons. Most times grease gets so packed and dried it hurts the movement of the seat. The Pistons are easy to take part put back together. Just make sure you use the proper grease to fill them with. The transmission is also easy to take apart and put back together.

The Tassie Devil(le)

Quote from: spolij on March 12, 2020, 08:19:47 AM
..... the elongated slots in the frame are there so you can adjust the seat left to right. When I put mine back in one side rubbed against the armrest. That's when I realized why the slots were elongated. 
G'day John,

The slots are positioned fore and aft, so I can't see how the seat could be moved laterally.

Bruce. >:D
'72 Eldorado Convertible (LHD)
'70 Ranchero Squire (RHD)
'74 Chris Craft Gull Wing (SH)
'02 VX Series II Holden Commodore SS Sedan
(Past President Modified Chapter)

Past Cars of significance - to me
1935 Ford 3 Window Coupe
1936 Ford 5 Window Coupe
1937 Chevrolet Sports Coupe
1955 Chevrolet Convertible
1959 Ford Fairlane Ranch Wagon
1960 Cadillac CDV
1972 Cadillac Eldorado Coupe

Caddyholic

On my 61 I took the side covers off. Then took the 2 backs off before I unbolted the tracks. This made the seat lighter and better balanced when lifting
I got myself a Cadillac but I can't afford the gasoline (AC/DC Down Payment Blues)

1961 Series 62 Convertible Coupe http://bit.ly/1RCYsVZ
1962 Coupe Deville

The Tassie Devil(le)

With a Convertible it is easier to use a crane/hoist.

Bruce. >:D
'72 Eldorado Convertible (LHD)
'70 Ranchero Squire (RHD)
'74 Chris Craft Gull Wing (SH)
'02 VX Series II Holden Commodore SS Sedan
(Past President Modified Chapter)

Past Cars of significance - to me
1935 Ford 3 Window Coupe
1936 Ford 5 Window Coupe
1937 Chevrolet Sports Coupe
1955 Chevrolet Convertible
1959 Ford Fairlane Ranch Wagon
1960 Cadillac CDV
1972 Cadillac Eldorado Coupe

59-in-pieces

Not so fast Bruce - my brother from down under,

I thought it might be the difference between a 59 and 60 so that both of you could be right, but for the wrong reason - because the tracks are a little different.

But not so - the slots in the track assemblies are the same orientation - The slots run perpendicular to the tracks.
So the adjustment from left to right for clearance seems more likely - take a look at the pics.

The fact that you see slots at the back is because the track base rusts out there, but also I suspect that who ever worked on the seat in the past, just roughly cut the slots in the back of the bolt holes - not machined -  was to get the seat out by removing the front and back bolts, then moving it forward and allowing the rear bolts to just be loosened to go into the slots when the seat was replaced.

No - my money is really on - they rusted out - particularly on a convertible - and because the slots are ragged and on a closed car because the mechanic was lazy.

Have fun,
Steve b.
S. Butcher

maseratibillm

Thanks to all for your help. Sometime in the past, The carpets must have been replaced and covered the bolts. There are literally no bolts showing above the carpet. Thanks again!!!

spolij

Steve that's a lot of rust. My 66 conv. had none.

59-in-pieces

John,

You are truly fortunate.

This is what some Eldo. Biarritz convertibles look like before they are brought home to the emergency room for life saving surgery - CPR - major tetanus eradication  and over-all restoration intervention.

Not for the faint of heart - THE HORROR see pic.

Have fun,
Steve B
S. Butcher

The Tassie Devil(le)

'72 Eldorado Convertible (LHD)
'70 Ranchero Squire (RHD)
'74 Chris Craft Gull Wing (SH)
'02 VX Series II Holden Commodore SS Sedan
(Past President Modified Chapter)

Past Cars of significance - to me
1935 Ford 3 Window Coupe
1936 Ford 5 Window Coupe
1937 Chevrolet Sports Coupe
1955 Chevrolet Convertible
1959 Ford Fairlane Ranch Wagon
1960 Cadillac CDV
1972 Cadillac Eldorado Coupe

The Tassie Devil(le)

Quote from: 59-in-pieces on March 13, 2020, 09:56:08 AM
Not so fast Bruce - my brother from down under,

The fact that you see slots at the back is because the track base rusts out there, but also I suspect that who ever worked on the seat in the past, just roughly cut the slots in the back of the bolt holes - not machined -  was to get the seat out by removing the front and back bolts, then moving it forward and allowing the rear bolts to just be loosened to go into the slots when the seat was replaced.

No - my money is really on - they rusted out - particularly on a convertible - and because the slots are ragged and on a closed car because the mechanic was lazy.  Have fun,  Steve b. 
Steve,

From what I see, the inside holes are opened up at the back to allow the easiness of installation, by allowing bolts to be loosely fitted to the floor, and the seat runners simply slotted under the bolts.

Then the outer holes are full holes, thus when installing the outer bolts, the seat is firmly held in position, then the inner bolts are tightened down.   Completing the fitting.

The "cut-outs" on the '60 that I stripped look like they are a factory pressing and not a rough hack job.

Bruce. >:D
'72 Eldorado Convertible (LHD)
'70 Ranchero Squire (RHD)
'74 Chris Craft Gull Wing (SH)
'02 VX Series II Holden Commodore SS Sedan
(Past President Modified Chapter)

Past Cars of significance - to me
1935 Ford 3 Window Coupe
1936 Ford 5 Window Coupe
1937 Chevrolet Sports Coupe
1955 Chevrolet Convertible
1959 Ford Fairlane Ranch Wagon
1960 Cadillac CDV
1972 Cadillac Eldorado Coupe