Started by chrisntam, April 24, 2021, 03:16:44 PM
Quote from: Mike Baillargeon #15848 on April 24, 2021, 03:34:52 PMI still don't think they've thought this whole thing thru.....
Quote from: TJ Hopland on April 25, 2021, 05:32:04 PMDo you suppose the conversation was similar 100 or so years ago? Why give up your horse or mule? Why would you ever want to go more than 10 or 20 miles in a day?
Quote from: Mike Josephic CLC #3877 on April 24, 2021, 06:53:21 PMI agree with the OP. I stated a long time ago that these lithium battery cars were not ready for prime time. Did you read about the recent Tesla crash where 2 people were turned into crispy critters dueto the battery pack igniting after a crash?https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/18/22390612/two-people-killed-fiery-tesla-crash-no-driverThe local fire department used over 30,000 gallons ofwater to finally extinguish the fire (that's about 7 tanker trucks). The lithium batteries kept re-igniting. Look at the pics in the attached article. Do you really want to drive one of these?They'll have to develop a safer and more advanced form of electrical energy to power the "electric car" of the future. This will not happen in the time framebeing promoted to go all electric.Mike
Quote from: Andrew Trout on April 26, 2021, 03:06:41 PMThis general topic (viability of EV) has come up several times on the forum, which is great in that there's just more curiosity and awareness. Range anxiety is certainly a concern for me as well when it comes to purchasing a EV or PHEV (plug-in hybrid EV). One plan I've had is for my wife and I to have one EV/PHEV in the household as the car for running around town and short trips, and one car with an ICE as the long-haul/events in more rural areas/backup for the EV car. My wife has been working from home for the past year with no return date in site, so if we had a EV/PHEV our gas costs would be miniscule right now. Her car is paid off though, so we're good with our current setup. Recharging in general is going to take some adapting by all of us. We all (probably) have it in our heads that we drive an EV the same was as an ICE: Drive until the energy/fuel level gets to a certain point, look for a place to top off, do so, and then hit the road again. With an EV, recharging is not a linear progression like it is with refueling. For a hypothetical example, you're at 20% power in your EV. You find a charging station and plug in. Your EV may take 60+ minutes to reach 100%, but only 20 minutes to reach 80%. Depending on how far away your destination is and where the next charging station is, it may be a more efficient use of your time (you get there faster) to only charge to 80% and start driving again. Much like how fuel economy and HP are points of differentiation between cars now, range and charge time will most likely be big ones in the future. I can't comment on charging station lines, only to say I see lines to fill up at gas stations as well. Theoretically a charging station could have more maximum capacity than a gas station, and it's starting to become commonplace to have a few chargers in parking garages and parking lots, as well as larger charging stations off highways. Business are always looking to find ways to attract customers, and landlords are looking for ways to maximize the revenue from every square inch of their property. Charging stations are a new retail concept that appeals to both of those groups, and are starting to roll out across the country. The cost to recharge away from your home will most likely vary based on a myriad of small costs, similar to how the cost of gasoline can vary depending on what state, county, or town you're in, along with what company you're purchasing from. I wouldn't be surprised to see complementary charging at hotels, reduced cost charging at bars, restaurants, or venues for customers, and membership-only wholesale clubs like BJ's or Costco offering (reduced) charging for members as well.
Quote from: Mike Josephic CLC #3877 on April 26, 2021, 03:44:46 PMMar:Regarding this quote you posted: "With respect to the fire fight, unfortunately, those rumors grew way out of control. It did not take us four hours to put out the blaze. Our guys got there and put down the fire within two to three minutes, enough to see the vehicle had occupants. After that, it was simply cooling the car as the batteries continued to have a chain reaction due to damage."Can you please supply a link to the original article? I'mcurious to see the whole picture. Thanks.Mike
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