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Title: 29 cad project
Post by: jp1gt on March 31, 2022, 09:26:05 AM
I got most of it home. Will have to make one more trip! If anyone has a 29-30 phaeton and could help me with info and some pics, let me know
Title: Re: 29 cad project
Post by: Big Fins on March 31, 2022, 11:08:58 AM
This will be a cool project to follow. You do like a challenge!
Title: Re: 29 cad project
Post by: Mike Baillargeon #15848 on March 31, 2022, 12:32:06 PM
Quote from: Big Fins on March 31, 2022, 11:08:58 AM
This will be a cool project to follow. You do like a challenge!

Oh Yea !!

Just put my seat belt on....This is going to be a fun ride !!

JP...get the rest of it home....spread it out and see what you have and what you don't have and then we can go from there....

Mike
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Post by: dogbergs on April 01, 2022, 03:28:02 AM
Now we're talking!.. Congratulations, enjoy the time with it.
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Post by: harry s on April 01, 2022, 09:48:58 AM
Congratulations. It will be a fun ride.    Harry
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Post by: dogbergs on April 17, 2022, 04:05:56 AM
When you wake up hoping a thread has a new picture post for the morning coffee?
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Post by: novetti on April 19, 2022, 01:50:36 AM
Very cool ! Sure there is a journey ahead !

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Post by: jp1gt on May 23, 2022, 09:11:05 AM
I wake up an hour before anyone else so I watch youtube videos. Lots of info on chrome. making small parts, body work and paint. Some stuff I have never done before but I have not come across anything that I could not do. At least now I have more patience!
Title: Re: 29 cad project
Post by: jp1gt on August 07, 2022, 08:43:39 AM
I am still sorting things out. I had a picture in my mind that I would start with the frame and just start finding parts and installing them.
Reality, is that there are a lot of parts that I do not know what they are. I got a hold of a 29 town sedan that another guy wanted the eng and wheels so I foound a good untouched chassis to show me where everything goes. right now still sorting and derusting parts with molasses. It takes time but I can get a big container and soak large things. I started putting the tub outside because it is messy but the dogs and horses drank all the liquid. now it is indoors. has a nice smell-- I still have not mastered the hydrochrome mostly because I had to learn how to do PERFECT painting on small objects. If anyone can use a real nice town sedan body, I have to figure out what to do with it.
Title: Re: 29 cad project
Post by: Willbarq on August 09, 2022, 06:56:08 PM
I was curious if you purchased a dealer service manual yet?  As far as molasses goes..it might be slow. An inexpensive tumbler for small parts might be in order. Harbor freight or a tumbler from the ammunition reloading community.

William
Title: Re: 29 cad project
Post by: The Tassie Devil(le) on August 09, 2022, 08:01:33 PM
Personally, I wouldn't be advocating the use of a tumbler in conjunction with a Molasses procedure, as there could be the possibility of damage to the parts being cleaned as they rub together for weeks at a time, abrading themselves.

Bruce. >:D
Title: Re: 29 cad project
Post by: jp1gt on August 10, 2022, 10:45:28 AM
I first soak in molasses, for how long it varies. I then soak in evaporust, then another dip in molasses. It seems to put a coating so it will not rust if no water gets on it. I am going to start coating them with wd 40 if they are not going to be painted. Here are some pics.mol2.jpg     
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Post by: jp1gt on August 10, 2022, 10:47:34 AM
the other pic
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Post by: Rod Dahlgren #19496 on August 16, 2022, 02:13:31 PM
Post a picture of the car before it came apart. I know you have one. It may jog some memories? 
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Post by: jp1gt on August 17, 2022, 08:46:34 AM
Good idea! This was a long time ago!20220413_101642.jpg
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Post by: 59-in-pieces on August 17, 2022, 03:24:17 PM
Jack,

The side view picture of your car is spectacular.

When I was younger - way younger - I would have jumped right into your adventure.

Good luck to you - take many pictures - you may think they will not be needed or so many would be overkill.
But, I assure you when it comes to putting it all back together, you'll wish you would have take that picture at just a little better angle.

Envious- Have Fun,
Steve B.
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Post by: dogbergs on August 18, 2022, 01:48:06 AM
Well, envy is not a good state. We will try hard look behind that and just be happy for you, get a glimpse of it little now and then. Thank you for sharing.

Johan
Title: Re: 29 cad project
Post by: jp1gt on August 18, 2022, 09:16:47 AM
I bought a parts car that helps a lot for parts and placement of the parts I have. I wish I could find someone that could use a near perfect town sedan body. I have mastered restoring bakelite and my wife is now an expert in cleaning chrome!
Title: Re: 29 cad project
Post by: 35-709 on August 18, 2022, 03:35:44 PM
"and my wife is now an expert in cleaning chrome!"

Lucky guy!  I offered my wife the opportunity to become an expert at cleaning my chrome wire wheels, she declined.
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Post by: harry s on August 18, 2022, 04:06:20 PM
...I've had the same experience but she sure can tell me how it should be done.     Harry
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Post by: 35-709 on August 18, 2022, 07:36:34 PM
 ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: 29 cad project
Post by: jp1gt on August 19, 2022, 08:32:52 AM
She is a country girl at heart. If she tells me how to do something, I have her do it, she is a keeper----
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Post by: CadillacGlasses on August 23, 2022, 09:30:01 AM
This is so cool! I love the rake the car had in the original picture. That lowered front end really makes the two tone body split look athletic.
Title: Re: 29 cad project
Post by: jp1gt on October 11, 2022, 09:22:27 AM
I am changing the frame color to black. Sandblasted it to scuff it up for painting and the powdercoating came off in lots of places--I am using por15 primer for the bare spots. that stuff really sticks!!!frame.jpg
Title: Re: 29 cad project
Post by: jp1gt on November 06, 2022, 10:45:34 AM
OK went to the barn to find missing parts. Found some but found one impossible to find part. Anyone know what it is?part.jpg
Title: Re: 29 cad project
Post by: Mike Baillargeon #15848 on November 06, 2022, 03:10:17 PM
Oh Boy Jack !

Keep digging around that barn....This piece, that's in great shape, sits on top of the cowl, connecting the w/s frame with that large horse collar piece just behind the hood....

Every time you find a part like this you are putting money in your pocket !

These pictures of mine are from my restoration of my 29 Roadster...

Mike
Title: Re: 29 cad project
Post by: jp1gt on November 07, 2022, 09:04:27 AM
every part I need that I find is like keeping money in my pocket! If anyone needs this part let me know and I can make one before I put it on the car.  the parts for open cars only I figure are almost impossible to find. I will make them from pictures if I have to. I knew it would be a challenge but the car is a bucket list kind of thing and I will finish it!
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Post by: 59-in-pieces on November 07, 2022, 10:12:02 AM
Jack,

First, you are starving us with out progress pictures, many pictures.
You know, we live vicariously through others on their restoration journey.

Now, another point - "I have mastered restoring bakelite".
Tell us more about this mastery of yours - and pics for sure.
Up to this time, I thought it was not possible as a DIY person, or some kind of mystical magical behind the curtain techniques.
So spill.

Have fun,
Steve B.
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Post by: James Landi on November 08, 2022, 07:30:44 AM
Quote from: 59-in-pieces on November 07, 2022, 10:12:02 AMJack,

First, you are starving us with out progress pictures, many pictures.
You know, we live vicariously through others on their restoration journey.

Now, another point - "I have mastered restoring bakelite".
Tell us more about this mastery of yours - and pics for sure.
Up to this time, I thought it was not possible as a DIY person, or some kind of mystical magical behind the curtain techniques.
So spill.

Have fun,
Steve B.


I'm another one of those, such as Steve,  in the audience who lives vicariously through the restoration journey--- also, curating your progress must yield some sort of advantage--- here, I'm channeling a scenario where, 5 decades hence your relatives have an important piece of your personal history to discuss! So please regale us with pictures and narratives.   Happy day, James 
Title: Re: 29 cad project
Post by: jp1gt on November 12, 2022, 09:59:55 AM
Ok here is a before, will get after when I go up to the other shopsteering wheel.jpg
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Post by: jp1gt on November 18, 2022, 10:31:46 AM
Here is after the cleanup. It has been sitting around for a while and was dusty, I could have spent more time cleaning it up but I was in a hurry. first I clean with 4-0 steel wool, then 3K sandpaper, then rubbing compound. I cleaned out the painted letters with a small pick. Then wiped white paint on the letters and as they dried cleaned around them. I had some cracks, if you enlarge the pic you can see where the lever is going to go that covers it. I found some epoxy that has black pigment in it to match the bakelite.bakelite.jpg