GN Modified class judging criteria-Any Update?

["Cadillac Kid" Greg Surfas 15364]

All the philosophical banter aside, does anyone have any comments on my suggested criteria above?
Greg Surfas

[cadillacmike68]

All the philosophical banter aside, does anyone have any comments on my suggested criteria above?
Greg Surfas

Maybe. First the "classes" should be in ascending order in the amount of deviation from "factory authentic", or really "dealer delivered authentic". 

Then there needs to be a milder than your "mild custom" for no body and trim deletions, original drive-train, just "modernized" to make it more drive-able in modern traffic and speed conditions.

[e.mason]

Anybody can do that.  What I was referring to is the likes of Geoff Newcombe's "Big Red."  1935 Cadillac with, hope I get this right, a 472, wire wheels, air conditioning, candy apple red paint, and it gets driven . . . a lot.  The skill involved to do that is much more than removing and old piece and refitting a NOS piece to the car in its place.  Just the fabrication alone required to pull it off requires a very special skill set. 

What's the bigger crime?  Letting it rot away somewhere in a barn or field, or, doing something with it and appreciating it as what it was transformed into.

I've seen Geoff's car, and it is very tastefully done, and not hard on the eyes either.

Over the years I have seen and been impressed, quite a few of these "modifieds".   Yes they do take more then average skill to take a 30's body and put in modern drive train and interior comforts i.e. automatic transmission, A/C power windows etc.  But aren't these, your basic "street rod"?

[The Tassie Devil(le)]

A lot of it depends on the modification involved.

When I got my '72 Eldo here, to get it correctly registered, I had to fit Lap/Sash Seat Belts to the outer seating positions, which is why I was asking for a set of factory Seat Belts many years ago, but nothing came forward.

I retro-fitted Retractable Lap/Sash belts to the front and rear, which involved a huge amount of modification to fit the Retractors out of sight, and to properly work, but none of these modifications can be seen.   just the belts.   It is a pity that Cadillac didn't see fit to do it properly, as what I ended up with was worthy of a Cadillac, even though they were Ford parts.

Bruce.

[35-709]

Anybody can do that.  What I was referring to is the likes of Geoff Newcombe's "Big Red."  1935 Cadillac with, hope I get this right, a 472, wire wheels, air conditioning, candy apple red paint, and it gets driven . . . a lot.  The skill involved to do that is much more than removing and old piece and refitting a NOS piece to the car in its place.  Just the fabrication alone required to pull it off requires a very special skill set. 

What's the bigger crime?  Letting it rot away somewhere in a barn or field, or, doing something with it and appreciating it as what it was transformed into.

I've seen Geoff's car, and it is very tastefully done, and not hard on the eyes either.

Thank you for the kind words, Dan.  Your good taste is exceeded only by your good looks. 
Geoff

[Carl Fielding]

"Kid" , I notice you specify Cadillac engines. I enjoy all "All  Cadillac" Cadillacs. When the soul is ripped out of them , for me , most of the enjoyment is gone. I am always left with "Why ?". I am sure we all know that pretty much anything is available to take a Cad mill to about any level you like. At this point I don't want to expand on this further. This morning I just don't want to hurt anyone's feelings at all. It may have something to do with the fact that I am going to pick up a 1930 Buick coupe today.  - Carl

Thank you for the kind words, Dan.  Your good taste is exceeded only by your good looks. 
Geoff

["Cadillac Kid" Greg Surfas 15364]

Carl,
Do I take that as agreement with the above criteria?

Regarding Cadillac motor performance, there is a rumor that one of the technical seminars this GN will be on the various modification potential and details for the 472/500 inch motors.
Greg Surfas

[cadillacmike68]

"Kid" , I notice you specify Cadillac engines. I enjoy all "All  Cadillac" Cadillacs. When the soul is ripped out of them , for me , most of the enjoyment is gone. I am always left with "Why ?". I am sure we all know that pretty much anything is available to take a Cad mill to about any level you like. At this point I don't want to expand on this further. This morning I just don't want to hurt anyone's feelings at all. It may have something to do with the fact that I am going to pick up a 1930 Buick coupe today.  - Carl

Carl, As I'm sure you already know, one of the automatic disqualifications has always been for a car to have an engine never made by, or for, Cadillac (as is with the case of the olds & chev V8s & v6s from the late 70s thru mid 90s).

I've always been in favor of that requirement.

[nysdarkblue]

It's to each his own, as my friend Arthur would say," everyone likes something different!" I prefer stock, as my car is, others like modified. The cars should and are judged on their merit in all classes.